[Nate A]

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I have a 81 GL1100 that now sounds like it has a starter clutch that will not disengage. I found the advice in the forums here to use MMO mixed with the engine oil to hopefully free it up. Is there a recommendation of what to limit theengine rpm towhileoperating with thestarter clutch engaged?

Thanks,

Nate

 

[johnnynogood]

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Hi Nate, Welcome aboard.



Are you sure it won't let go. I've heard the other way, when it won't grab the shaft. The starter motor spins the rotor and these rollers (3 ea) come out and grab the shaft to spin the engine. But I've never heard of em staying out. Then again, I only think I've seen a lot. I just picture that little chain stuck in a serious haul ass condition when the motor lights off.

 

[JBz]

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shut it off is what i would do. jb

 

[DaveO430]

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It would be a good idea to confirm what you suspect. Pull the starter and reach into the hole and try to turn the chain. It should turn in one direction at least and probably in both directions since it would be hard to turn it fast enough to lock the clutch.

 

[Nate A]

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So basically I am stuck with splitting the case and replacing the clutch?

 

[JBz]

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start it for just a second. and put your hand on the starterif its stuck youshould feel the starter turning. you dont have to split the cases but you do haveto take out the engine and remove the rear cover. JB

 

[brianinmaine]

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Follow the other advice here, I just wanted to add that removing the engine isn't as bad as I thought. Make sure you get a case gasket (I didn't and mine leaks now a little). If you have to take it out, read the manual carefully and take your time.

 

[Nate A]

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Thanks guys. I have the Honda shop manual. Do you think the starter clutch can just be cleaned up or replaced? Is there anything else that would make a squealing noise that would sound like an engaged starter?

 

[brianinmaine]

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DaveO430 wrote:

It would be a good idea to confirm what you suspect. Pull the starter and reach into the hole and try to turn the chain. It should turn in one direction at least and probably in both directions since it would be hard to turn it fast enough to lock the clutch.

Did you do this? Also, any more details? Does it start squealing right away? It does run? Was it sitting for a long time? The more details you give, the easier it is to help?

 

[Nate A]

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The bike sat unused for several yearsup to about three years ago at which time I rebuilt the carbs, replaced the timing belts and hoses. It has been run/rodeon a regular basis since then. The noise just started, the squealing begins as soon as the engine starts and changes with the speed of the engine and is not loud. I am not where the bike is now but will be this week end to verify what has been suggested.

Thanks,

Nate

 

[brianinmaine]

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I have had the timing belt idlers make some noise - especially if they are too tight? Thats my best guess for now, maybe you'll find something if you do take the starter out. By the way, that is pretty easy, you can get it right out, it just fits. Since you are going to move the chain, it might be a hassle to get the splines lined up again, though. Please use a thin 10mm wrench to hold the stud on the starter still while unbolting the big wire. I didn't and broke my starter inside. Duh!
Maybe someone else has another idea?

 

[clarkjh]

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Nate A
I posted some pics of my starter clutch and some ideas on the cause of the problem.
http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/forum1/74387.html
James

 

[johnnynogood]

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Nate A wrote:

Thanks guys. I have the Honda shop manual. Do you think the starter clutch can just be cleaned up or replaced? Is there anything else that would make a squealing noise that would sound like an engaged starter?

I have an EX-Wife that makes a noise like that.

 

[Mr Magic Fingers]

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DaveO430 wrote:

It would be a good idea to confirm what you suspect. Pull the starter and reach into the hole and try to turn the chain. It should turn in one direction at least and probably in both directions since it would be hard to turn it fast enough to lock the clutch.

Hey Nate A,



If you go here:

http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/forum9/73447-1.html

you will find a picture of the sprocket and chain that Dave0430 was talking about.



Tim.

 

[Nate A]

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Tim,

It was that very thread that came up in a internet search that led me to this forum.

Good job!:clapper:



Nate

 

[JBz]

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I took a engine apart last week that had sat for some time. How long i dont know but was locked up. I did get it unlocked and the inner race, the one that has the top starter sprocket attached to it had 3 bad pitted spots from where the rollers had rested thereand moisture crept in somehow. i dont think any marvel mystery oil would have helped it. JB

 

[JBz]

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just a thought. maybe your solenoid is sticking. jb