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looks like you paid for some water with your gas
looks like you paid for some water with your gas
stuttering today after fill up
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I let my tank get low today before I pulled in to fill it up. About a half a mile from where I got gas, it started spitting and stuttering something terrible. I thought the timing belts were about to come off the way it sounded.
I think it was something in the bottom of the tank that got in the carbs but am not sure. I had pulled up to a red light and I almost couldn't leave the spot. I finally got it to idle up to about 2500rpm and it took off only to start coughing at me again. After about a mile down the road it went away.
What's your thoughts on it??
I let my tank get low today before I pulled in to fill it up. About a half a mile from where I got gas, it started spitting and stuttering something terrible. I thought the timing belts were about to come off the way it sounded.
I think it was something in the bottom of the tank that got in the carbs but am not sure. I had pulled up to a red light and I almost couldn't leave the spot. I finally got it to idle up to about 2500rpm and it took off only to start coughing at me again. After about a mile down the road it went away.
What's your thoughts on it??
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Yeah I guess water or maybe a bit of crud got through. Seeing as its running fine now I'd say forget about it.
Yeah I guess water or maybe a bit of crud got through. Seeing as its running fine now I'd say forget about it.
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Teh pressure from the nozzle may have washhed some tankrust or scale into your filter sounds like you are starving for fuel. Change the filter and see what happens.
ARe you sure you put regular fuel. the gas stations around here are getting worse . They sell gas in 3 grades , diesel, bio diesel and 85% ethanol gas.
I have to make sure I see what they are selling me.
Teh pressure from the nozzle may have washhed some tankrust or scale into your filter sounds like you are starving for fuel. Change the filter and see what happens.
ARe you sure you put regular fuel. the gas stations around here are getting worse . They sell gas in 3 grades , diesel, bio diesel and 85% ethanol gas.
I have to make sure I see what they are selling me.
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more likly water. my 1200 did the same thing last year after filling up at a gas station i had never been to. the wing was running sooo rough i thought i needed a tuneup and after a week of riding to work like that i filled up on the way home and once some clean gas diluted that watery gas it started running better. never needed a tuneup
more likly water. my 1200 did the same thing last year after filling up at a gas station i had never been to. the wing was running sooo rough i thought i needed a tuneup and after a week of riding to work like that i filled up on the way home and once some clean gas diluted that watery gas it started running better. never needed a tuneup
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I thought about water myself because of the way it sounded at first. Like detonation to begin with but then it sounded like it was not getting gas which was why I was leaning toward trash or rust in the filter.
Like you said though, it is working fine now, just have to wait and see if it comes back or not. I won't be getting gas there anymore just in case.
Thanks guys,
Jeff
I thought about water myself because of the way it sounded at first. Like detonation to begin with but then it sounded like it was not getting gas which was why I was leaning toward trash or rust in the filter.
Like you said though, it is working fine now, just have to wait and see if it comes back or not. I won't be getting gas there anymore just in case.
Thanks guys,
Jeff
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I had the same happen to me a while back. Went to my service guy and they told me it was probably some bad gas had been sitting in the bottom of the carb bowls and that it had gotten sucked up when I gunned it to avoid a dog in the street. Advised me to "get on it" (run her up close to red line in shifting) every now and then as I was leaving town to suck the junk from the bottom of the carbs. Have not had a problem since.
I had the same happen to me a while back. Went to my service guy and they told me it was probably some bad gas had been sitting in the bottom of the carb bowls and that it had gotten sucked up when I gunned it to avoid a dog in the street. Advised me to "get on it" (run her up close to red line in shifting) every now and then as I was leaving town to suck the junk from the bottom of the carbs. Have not had a problem since.
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Pastor T wrote:
[was most likely water as my opinion, also..]
Pastor T wrote:
Creative service guy.... I guess water qualifies as "bad gas"........Went to my service guy and they told me it was probably some bad gas had been sitting in the bottom of the carb bowls and that it had gotten sucked up when I gunned it ......
[was most likely water as my opinion, also..]
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I saw a court case on television today on that very subject. A guy was trying to sue the owner of a gas station for having water in his gas. They did not tell the name of the company due to obveouse reasons. The owner of the station did a very interesting demo. with drawings and so on showing how it was not possible for water to get from the underground holding tanks to the actual gas pumps. He stated that the pickup line were designed several inches from the bottom of the tanks. And, if water did get into the main tanks, the water (heavier than gas) would ultamtely end up on the bottom of the tank. He also stated, "if ther was a situation were water was in the main tanks and got to the pick up line, there is a computerised sysyem that would detect the water and shut the complete system down. Again, they did not state the company, but did say it was one of the major companies. The owner of the station was not found liable due to the evidence that was presented.
I have no personal experience in this area but found the information to be very interesting. I think I did learn one thing, Maybe it is best to deal with the major gas companies for your gas needs. If this system is as was demonstated , and properly installed, it would seem impossible for water to make it into your tank. I hope someone has experience in this area and can shed some more light on the subject. Someone may even bring up a product called ''seafoam''!!!!
I saw a court case on television today on that very subject. A guy was trying to sue the owner of a gas station for having water in his gas. They did not tell the name of the company due to obveouse reasons. The owner of the station did a very interesting demo. with drawings and so on showing how it was not possible for water to get from the underground holding tanks to the actual gas pumps. He stated that the pickup line were designed several inches from the bottom of the tanks. And, if water did get into the main tanks, the water (heavier than gas) would ultamtely end up on the bottom of the tank. He also stated, "if ther was a situation were water was in the main tanks and got to the pick up line, there is a computerised sysyem that would detect the water and shut the complete system down. Again, they did not state the company, but did say it was one of the major companies. The owner of the station was not found liable due to the evidence that was presented.
I have no personal experience in this area but found the information to be very interesting. I think I did learn one thing, Maybe it is best to deal with the major gas companies for your gas needs. If this system is as was demonstated , and properly installed, it would seem impossible for water to make it into your tank. I hope someone has experience in this area and can shed some more light on the subject. Someone may even bring up a product called ''seafoam''!!!!
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CALEBNDAD wrote:
The only time that I have found water in my gas (from a gas station) was when the car was filled while the truck was actually there filling the tanks... If I see that happening, I drive right on by.... might be over kill, but I've never had water since...
CALEBNDAD wrote:
I saw the same case... kinda bogus in a couple of ways.. The guy's technical arguments may have been sufficient to raise enough doubt to convince the judge to not make him liable... (i.e. the burden of proof is on the plantiff.)... but the fact remains that people do get water from time to time, and these sytems are not foolproof...I saw a court case on television today on that very subject. A guy was trying to sue the owner of a gas station for having water in his gas. .....The owner of the station was not found liable due to the evidence that was presented....
The only time that I have found water in my gas (from a gas station) was when the car was filled while the truck was actually there filling the tanks... If I see that happening, I drive right on by.... might be over kill, but I've never had water since...
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kind of stirs the pot as they say
kind of stirs the pot as they say
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I had to have the gas tank removed one time when I had a diesel car. The car had a water filter/remover on it but I had filled up and the tank had more water in it than the filter could remove.
Cost me about $100 to have the tank removed and dumped, would have done it myself had I known it was just water instead of the car just not starting.
I saw the same court case, funny we all watch the same show....lol but just because someone says the State makes sure we have these catch all gauges and makes us keep up with it and the pumps will shut down if there is water in the tank, certainly doesn't mean water doesn't get in there and out of the pumps. Been there and done that and gotten the T shirt to prove it before.
I had to have the gas tank removed one time when I had a diesel car. The car had a water filter/remover on it but I had filled up and the tank had more water in it than the filter could remove.
Cost me about $100 to have the tank removed and dumped, would have done it myself had I known it was just water instead of the car just not starting.
I saw the same court case, funny we all watch the same show....lol but just because someone says the State makes sure we have these catch all gauges and makes us keep up with it and the pumps will shut down if there is water in the tank, certainly doesn't mean water doesn't get in there and out of the pumps. Been there and done that and gotten the T shirt to prove it before.
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I picked up some bad gas in central Texas on my way to Llano in April. Bike ran like crap all the way to the campgrounds in Llano. when everyone got back from their ride I borrowed half a can of Seafoam from some one and put t in the tank and then filled it up. The next morning when going to Coopers for lunch it cleared up within 3 miles. Seafoam will disperse the water or at least absorb it so it doesn't affect the engine.
I picked up some bad gas in central Texas on my way to Llano in April. Bike ran like crap all the way to the campgrounds in Llano. when everyone got back from their ride I borrowed half a can of Seafoam from some one and put t in the tank and then filled it up. The next morning when going to Coopers for lunch it cleared up within 3 miles. Seafoam will disperse the water or at least absorb it so it doesn't affect the engine.
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Back in the day when I sold gasoline (no not from the gravity pumps either) we used to have to "stick" the tanks each morning to get the ammount of gas in the tanks. Once a month we used to have to put this brown paste on the tip of the stick and up the side of it. The paste would change from brown to deep purple to indicate water in the bottom of the tank. If you got it up the side of the stick, that meant that you had a big problem. The punps do not draft the product from the bottom of the tank, the intake is about 6" off of the bottom of the tank. I guess now with all the wonders of electronics we have the water finder paste went the way of the dinosauer.
BTW, don't buy gas from a station that is getting a delivery of fuel. By the filling of the tank that will stir up any contaminants (water) that happen to be ion the bottom of the tank.
Back in the day when I sold gasoline (no not from the gravity pumps either) we used to have to "stick" the tanks each morning to get the ammount of gas in the tanks. Once a month we used to have to put this brown paste on the tip of the stick and up the side of it. The paste would change from brown to deep purple to indicate water in the bottom of the tank. If you got it up the side of the stick, that meant that you had a big problem. The punps do not draft the product from the bottom of the tank, the intake is about 6" off of the bottom of the tank. I guess now with all the wonders of electronics we have the water finder paste went the way of the dinosauer.
BTW, don't buy gas from a station that is getting a delivery of fuel. By the filling of the tank that will stir up any contaminants (water) that happen to be ion the bottom of the tank.
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I was going to say the same thing that Croderick stated, I used to own two Arco stations before the Marines. This was back in 73 when we had to stick the tanks every other day or so. And I remember the paste we used to use to detect water in the tank.
I haven't seen any of those long sticks in years.
Ahh, What a pain they were.
Mohawk
I was going to say the same thing that Croderick stated, I used to own two Arco stations before the Marines. This was back in 73 when we had to stick the tanks every other day or so. And I remember the paste we used to use to detect water in the tank.
I haven't seen any of those long sticks in years.
Ahh, What a pain they were.
Mohawk
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Ethynol in the gas does a great job of dispersing water.Most of the gas around here in Seattle is 10% or less.
At least ethynol is good for something.
Flatfour
Ethynol in the gas does a great job of dispersing water.Most of the gas around here in Seattle is 10% or less.
At least ethynol is good for something.
Flatfour
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Well, I drained the bowls, took about 25-30 seconds to even smell gas. They were full of water so I ran a can of seafoam over two tanks and then resynced the carbs and she is running like she is supposed to again.
Yesterday, she sounded like she had an exhaust leak and bent valves, the carbs ended up being so out of whack that she was sending gas out of the exhausts. I tried to sync the carbs the other day and the number 1 carb wouldn't even make the needle move. After the seafoam, today it took me a few minutes but the carbs are now synced and the rattling is gone as well as the smell of gas.
Thanks guys!
Jeff
Well, I drained the bowls, took about 25-30 seconds to even smell gas. They were full of water so I ran a can of seafoam over two tanks and then resynced the carbs and she is running like she is supposed to again.
Yesterday, she sounded like she had an exhaust leak and bent valves, the carbs ended up being so out of whack that she was sending gas out of the exhausts. I tried to sync the carbs the other day and the number 1 carb wouldn't even make the needle move. After the seafoam, today it took me a few minutes but the carbs are now synced and the rattling is gone as well as the smell of gas.
Thanks guys!
Jeff
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Yep, Sea Foam to the rescue again.
I carry Sea Foam in my saddle bags just for that reason. The slightest burble that makes me think "bad gas", and I dump the whole can in.
Yep, Sea Foam to the rescue again.
I carry Sea Foam in my saddle bags just for that reason. The slightest burble that makes me think "bad gas", and I dump the whole can in.
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