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I am going to have to get/build a new PC soon and the options for a system now is (gagging) windows 10, or Linux. Give me the ups, downs an what I need to know to use it. Is there different hardware involved etc. ?
 

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Dave,

Are you thinking of using the same desktop that you have now?

If so, I will be willing to come over and walk you throw it, or were you considering putting it on the Toshiba laptop you have so that you can "get your feet wet" while still having the Win7 PC on your desktop???

That is the method that I chose to go, leave my Desktop alone, it is on Win7 and will always be on Win7...
I will never allow it to upgrade to a different Windows OS.

I highly suggest for your own comfort, that you consider Linux Mint 18.x Cinnamon as the version to start out with. That is the version that I am using with the laptop in front of me now while typing this up.

I have been a Windows user and IT support tech since the stuff was born.... I even still have a Windows 3.0 CD in the cellophane package!!! I also have a Win7 pro CD with 5 licenses that has not been used yet.

But, the truth is that today, I am now using my Linux laptop almost exclusively for the Internet, because little by little, I have learned to use the different applications that came with Linux right out of the Download Box.

Let's talk about this, I really, honestly think, that after you get your fingers wet with Linux Mint 18.x Cinnamon desktop, that it won't be too hard for you to learn to like it....

And Ken Bergen is setting up in Vancouver laughing his ass off at this post... :rofl:


I have it on a DVD, and we can sit side by side, and work with it a while, go get some lunch, work with it some more, and go get supper, and then take a ride, and then come back, sleep on it, and work on it some more...
 

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or, I bring a certain Suburban over and we think about that in between times?


Linux has a product called LibreOffice which is a look alike for Microsoft Office...
I can help you configure it so that the files it makes are Microsoft compatible...
that is, it outputs a " .doc " letter file, or a " .xls " spreadsheet file that can be used in Excel...

Just that little hurdle took me more weeks than I want to admit, but I did it on my own, without anyone setting next to me.....

Linux has an Image editor, and an Image viewer, took me a week of learning to use those two things all by themselves, but, right now, I am embarrassed to say, the Linux does a better job of handling images and file handling that Windows does :( :(

I can sit right here on this laptop, and I can access my Windows 7 PC via the WiFi and download, or store anything that I want from this laptop to, or from, that Win7 PC.... and the documents will open in windows and run....

Linux, will open a Windows document and convert it to LibreOffice w/o even complaining....


For me, Windows 10 is not something that I want to even mess with....
Unless the lord just happens to drop something in my lap that already has it installed...

That is not likely, so, Linux, here I went
 

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Dave,

Are you thinking of using the same desktop that you have now?
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No, my desktop is about like me, old and on it's last legs. That's why I'm asking. Windows is just so much BS and the more they change it the worse it gets. If windows 95 still worked I would probably still use it.
 

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A lot of hardware drivers have to be reverse engineered for Linux so if you steer clear of the latest and greatest/just released yesterday hardware you shouldn't run into to much trouble, of course there are no guaranties.
 

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There is another neat little program that works on any OS called NixNote, google that and download it someday.

I can show you how to use that to store all of the things that you like to keep on hand to give to folks when they ask a question.... it is super neat, as it will install on your laptop, or PC, and it can use the WiFi to transfer the info around the world.

I am using it a lot,

here is a screen image of it where I am storing info on the Suburban
 

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Dave,

I can help you with that desktop on Win7,

we can go thru it and take out the chaff, and tell it to ignore the Windows updates from now on, just like I did with mine.... it has not updated now in about a year.... and it just plugs right along, happy as a pig eating corn....

the secret is, you and I will never be downloading a lot of junk from unacceptable websites.

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My roommates husband has a source for Windows7 machines he has a refurbished desk top that runs 7 pro, he got it from Newegg.com for $69.00 add monitor and you're good to go.
The only way I may try Linux is to put it on a stick and then find on ebay a laptop with no OS and put it there. XP runs games and the 7 is what I use presently. I like the idea of a stand alone machine for cross stitch software but the software runs on 7.

Not being able to boot into the bios has nothing to do with the operating system and drivers come well after the bios.
In the above could you remove the hard drive and run from a stick or disc?
 

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Dave,

I can help you with that desktop on Win7,

we can go thru it and take out the chaff, and tell it to ignore the Windows updates from now on, just like I did with mine.... it has not updated now in about a year.... and it just plugs right along, happy as a pig eating corn....

the secret is, you and I will never be downloading a lot of junk from unacceptable websites.

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I'm afraid the mother board is failing, not a software problem. I too have it set to ignore windows updates. If it's possible to replace the mother board with one that is still compatible with win7 I may just do that. I already have a new solid state hard drive.
 

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I have a Dell Latitude D630 with 2 MB RAM and a Intel Core 2 Duo. It is running Ubuntu 16.4 Graphics version. It has a Firefox browser. The OS runs fine and is very stable. I like it because most of the websites don't write trash to the OS. They don't bother to go after it. Installation was easy. I downloaded a DVD image and created a bootable DVD on the Win7 desktop. Slide it into the Dell DVD reader, flipped it on, set the BIOS to boot from the DVD and followed the screen prompts.
There is a learning curve using a different OS. I go back to DOS V3 and have used Microsoft since. This computer does run out of steam trying to do graphics work. I can render webpage video with it. It will also do a nice job on photographs. For heavy duty work I use the desktop. I would like to get an I7 processor laptop for doing video on the road. I would consider keeping Ubuntu on the new PC, at least on a HD partition.
 

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Dave,

that HP has a DVD drive in it, and 4 front panel USB slots.
that should be all you need.

One of those USB ports can be used to add on an external HDD if you should need the space for lots of pictures. the HDD in your current PC can be used to do that.


you already have a monitor, it comes pre-loaded with Windows 7 Professional.

It looks just like the workstations that my medical offices use... they have 100s of those things.
 

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The one Tom has is currently running a radio station app, 2 external hard drives, is using the hard drive from a notebook with a broken screen and two monitors. If you look on newegg.com at the price of motherboards you may fall off the chair. Plus there are 6 more usb ports on the back, so you can add more to it. It's more than I need to run cross stitch software. That's what my Toshiba laptop will be doing.
 

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Then it has 10 USB ports, the specs just mentioned the 4 USB ports on the front....

My desktop PC has the same configuration, 4 USB ports on the front, and a bunch more on the back panel.

Dave, that just might fix you up
 

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Just checking Reader Comments, found the following:

2Gb is not enough for that computer. It takes DDR3-SDRAM DIMMs PC2-10600. The MBD can accept 1, 2 or 4 GB Sticks. I put in 2 2GB Stick and it improved it greatly. You can check out Docu 581652-001 on HP website. Complete tech specs. I would get two 4 GB sticks

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This PC os fast on WIn7,

I added a new 1TB HDD and installed WIn8.1, and blazing fast. I am running photoshop 7 , oms office etc on it and works perfect like my i5 laptop.

I will do an upgrade for the RAM in near future..

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i used: 4GB
ddr3l -1600 udimm pc3-12800 cl=11 non-ECC But I also put in a Kingston 120GB ssd and the computer runs great.
Here, I think you should use the SSD that you have in your current Desktop


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2 display - IS 1 dvi ?
A shopper on May 12, 2017
BEST ANSWER: No, it has one VGA and one HP display port which you can get a HP display port DVI adapter cable.

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es. (1) 9-pin serial port.

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one RJ-45 attached to the MOBO.
This is the LAN connector to your Cable Internet Modem
 

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Just checking Reader Comments, found the following:

2Gb is not enough for that computer. It takes DDR3-SDRAM DIMMs PC2-10600. The MBD can accept 1, 2 or 4 GB Sticks. I put in 2 2GB Stick and it improved it greatly. You can check out Docu 581652-001 on HP website. Complete tech specs. I would get two 4 GB sticks

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This PC os fast on WIn7,

I added a new 1TB HDD and installed WIn8.1, and blazing fast. I am running photoshop 7 , oms office etc on it and works perfect like my i5 laptop.

I will do an upgrade for the RAM in near future..

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i used: 4GB
ddr3l -1600 udimm pc3-12800 cl=11 non-ECC But I also put in a Kingston 120GB ssd and the computer runs great.
Here, I think you should use the SSD that you have in your current Desktop


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2 display - IS 1 dvi ?
A shopper on May 12, 2017
BEST ANSWER: No, it has one VGA and one HP display port which you can get a HP display port DVI adapter cable.

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es. (1) 9-pin serial port.

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one RJ-45 attached to the MOBO.
This is the LAN connector to your Cable Internet Modem
Pretty much what I was thinking, upgrade the RAM and add the SSD & it should suffice for what I do, except apparently it doesn't have a card reader and no mention of an HDMI port.
 

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Pretty much what I was thinking, upgrade the RAM and add the SSD & it should suffice for what I do, except apparently it doesn't have a card reader and no mention of an HDMI port.

oops!
i forgot about you needing the HDMI port for the TV,
and no, a Card Reader port is not on that unit at all,
let's keep looking if those are really important
 

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I have a new card reader also and I have a video card in my PC with HDMI, wonder if it would work?
 
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