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I had to buy a new (used) final driven flange and final driven gear assy. I also bought a wheel to go with the flange because I bought a very nice '84 flange and my bike is a '86.
I read a lot of posts about what fit what, some were contradictory to other posts so I thought I would research myself.
Some said '84-85 pin diameter was different from '86-87, wrong - no difference in pin diameter or in pin circle diameter. the only difference is the pins in the '84-85 are about .050 longer than the '86 -87, not enough to matter.
I found some wheels online shown as say '85 were really '86-87, I don't think they are purposely misrepresenting the parts, I think someone may have changed a wheel/flange at one time and the guy parting it doesn't know the diffrence in years. Because of this I thought I would share some info that I hope will help keep people from getting wrong parts as they are needed and used is all there is.
You want to keep flange and wheel matched by year for them to work, ie: 84-5 flange with 84-5 wheel.

First off, any final driven gear assy from '84 to 87 will work on any '84 to 87 bike.
The '84 - 85 flange has a longer center bore and is smaller I/D than the '86 - 87.
The wheel for '84 - 85 has the hub turned where the flange slides over, the '86 - 87 does not have the hub turned.

(Just a side note....the driven flange from the '88 - 89 1500 will work on the '86 - 87 wheel)

Below are pictures that I think will help understand what to look for when buying replacement parts.
driven flage for '84-5, note long center


driven flange for '86-7, note short center - ('88 -89 flange is same)


wheel for '84-5, note turned hub


wheel for '86-7, note hub not turned


I hope this helps some of you some day, I know I had a hard time finding any definitive info.
I'm glad I found nice parts, it payed off nicely as you can see below


 

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thank you AZgl1500, it's easy to get the wrong thing from ebay sellers who don't know what they have (not blaming them). I hope this helps. I wanted to delete the second post (the one with the small thumbnails) but I couldn't figure out how. Sorry to have posted twice
 

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thank you AZgl1500, it's easy to get the wrong thing from ebay sellers who don't know what they have (not blaming them). I hope this helps. I wanted to delete the second post (the one with the small thumbnails) but I couldn't figure out how. Sorry to have posted twice
I took care of that and did a soft delete leaving the pictures attached.... just in case you might want to bring it back.
 

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doing a major overhaul

I bought a 1984 Honda Gold wing and I have a rear flange that has major wear due to the last guy who owned it did not grease the flange. I read that it is possible to replace it with a 1998 Honda Goldwing flange. I looked at both of them and they look very similar. I want to replace it with new to excellent shape part. So that is why I am going this route. Can anyone tell me if it is possible and if so is there any modifications needed?
 

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I bought a 1984 Honda Gold wing and I have a rear flange that has major wear due to the last guy who owned it did not grease the flange. I read that it is possible to replace it with a 1998 Honda Goldwing flange. I looked at both of them and they look very similar. I want to replace it with new to excellent shape part. So that is why I am going this route. Can anyone tell me if it is possible and if so is there any modifications needed?
read the post at begining with pictures carefully, The 86-87 can use the 88-89 flange but that is it. after that they went to 5 pin instead of 6.
Look at your wheel and compare it to the pictures, it is possible your wheel may have been changed to the 86-87 sometime in it's life. The 84-85 wheel has a turned hub (see picture) the 86-87 does not.
 

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I bought a 1984 Honda Gold wing and I have a rear flange that has major wear due to the last guy who owned it did not grease the flange. I read that it is possible to replace it with a 1998 Honda Goldwing flange. I looked at both of them and they look very similar. I want to replace it with new to excellent shape part. So that is why I am going this route. Can anyone tell me if it is possible and if so is there any modifications needed?
urnabind2 Yes it has been done here is a link sort of.

http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/2-goldwing-technical-forum/354299-final-drive-swap-gl1500-into-gl1200.html




Thank you for the information I am trying to figure out what I'm going to do about mine. I've got time before I wear it out just don't know how long. I have another that is almost gone so it is no help.

 

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urnabind2 Yes it has been done here is a link sort of.

http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/2-goldwing-technical-forum/354299-final-drive-swap-gl1500-into-gl1200.html




Thank you for the information I am trying to figure out what I'm going to do about mine. I've got time before I wear it out just don't know how long. I have another that is almost gone so it is no help.
this works only if you want to replace the whole final drive with new. Thats all good you just need final drive, drive flange and wheel. I am sorry if I didn't understand what you wanted, i read it as you just wanted the drive flange.
 

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I don't have any new information to add to this thread but I have long ago acquired it (and have saved some old pages that are "no more") ..... and so I did once create a "cheat sheet" of sorts that condenses what can be done with relative ease. Maybe it helps someone?
Of course the 4 holes always must be drilled larger to 7/16" as I recall and the 1500 caliper bracket modified if used.

The 1984-1987 GL1200s and 1988/'89 GL1500s all have 6 pin drive flanges ... while 1990-2000 GL1500s use 5 pin drive flanges.

The '84/'85 GL1200s use different 6 pin drive flanges than do '86/'87 GL1200s and '88/'89 GL-1500s.

The '84/'85 GL1200s use different rear wheels than do '86/'87 GL1200s.


When upgrading any year GL-1200 with parts from a GL-1500 you can either:

1) ... use GL-1200 rear wheel, brake rotor and caliper bracket, and 2 spacers, and either axle and ...
* ... use a '84/'85 rear wheel with a '84/'85 drive flange and any year 1500 final.
* ... use a '86/'87 rear wheel with a '86/'87 drive flange and any year 1500 final.
* ... use a '86/'87 rear wheel with a '88/'89 1500 drive flange and any year 1500 final.

2) ... use GL-1500 16" rear wheel, larger brake rotor and caliper bracket, single spacer, and either axle and ...
* ... use a '88/'89 rear wheel with a '88/'89 1500 drive flange and any year 1500 final.
* ... use a '90/'00 rear wheel with a '90/'00 1500 drive flange and any year 1500 final.

The GL-1200 axle and GL-1500 axle are same except that the 1500 axle is longer which will allow some threads to be exposed after installing nut on final drive end. The shorter 1200 axle will not show threads with slightly thicker 1500 final drive so best to always use 1500 axle with 1500 final drive.

In a 1200 you must always use a 1200 driveshaft.

The GL1200 and GL1500 use the same rear caliper so there is no need to swap it.

Once it's decided which wheel, time to think about tires.
A 160/80-16 is near 26.07" OA Diameter (stock 1500 size)
A 150/80-16 is near 25.44" OA Diameter
A 150/90-15 is near 25.62" OA Diameter (a 1200 size)
A 150/85-15 is near 25.04" OA Diameter (also a 1200 size)

And it follows that one can use the oem stock GL-1200 final drive with a GL1500 16" rear wheel provided the correct drive flange is used along with the correct GL1500 spacer, brake rotor & caliper bracket .... but why would you do all that and not use a 1500 final drive?
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Well...found the wheel spline worn out on my '86 Aspencade, and got a spline off an '89 off ebay. Couldn't find on off an '86-'87.
This thread helped a bunch.
 

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Got my '89 flange from ebay. Perfect fit on the '86. I couldn't find an '86 nowhere. You guys are great. Thanks.
 

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The 83 1100 was the first cast rear mag to start wallowing out the bearing hub, even some gl1000 lester mags (first introduced in 76) had the same problem so buyer beware purchasing used lesters and oem 83-85. Why some did and others not, is anyone's guess ?
 

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had a 1986 gl1200 SEi and I do recall a differnet in the wheel and hub maybe only on the SEi We repaired the rear wheel drive the splines were bad on My as well as the couple in gear head. It has been 5 yrs plus but I do remember some differnets
 

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had a 1986 gl1200 SEi and I do recall a differnet in the wheel and hub maybe only on the SEi We repaired the rear wheel drive the splines were bad on My as well as the couple in gear head. It has been 5 yrs plus but I do remember some differnets
The 86 sei has the same part number as any 86. 84 and 85 are different than the 86-87
 

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file:///C:/Users/fordf3/OneDrive/Pictures/Rear%20flanges/2018-03-26/P3260007.JPG


I have 2 final drive rear flanges for 86 gl1200a,
If interested contact me
Ed
near Philadelphia
 
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