[William_86]

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I Am just wondering if im right or not, even in tropical weather places such as tampico, thermostats are not needed? i was reading a forum where some "guy" suggested to remove the thermostat of everybike, he claimed that he removed the thermostat off his bike even when it was working properly, i jumped into that thread and said that thermostas are required everywhere. i know that bike would take longer to warm up, but he is telling everyone to remove their thermostats cuz its absolutely useless and not needed.

am i right and he is a moron? or im an ignorant?

 

[SC]

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Optimum operating temp & tolerance = wear and tear

 

[DaveO430]

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I say he is a moron. Engines need to run at the pre-determined operating temperature and stay in that range. Running without a thermostat can also cause an engine to overheat because the coolant circulates too fast to absorb the heat and then disperse it from the radiator.

 

[k1w1t1m]

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You are correct William. The thermostat not only keeps the engine up to correct operating temperature but also down to correct operating temperature.

 

[sandiegobrass]

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Well I won't go so far as to say he is a moron (i.e., retarded)... but he is certainly not well informed and is recommending a practice that will increase engine wear, decrease efficiency (lower mpg)... .. you are correct..

 

[sfruechte]

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It'll run, but not efficiently. The faster you get to operating temperature, the better.

 

[mo84]

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a engine is kinda like a human body if there isnt enough oil its bad, if there isnt enough blood its bad, if ur engine is to hot or to cold its bad if ur body is to cold or hot it is bad.so taking the thermostat out an engine would be like closing all of our sweat glands, when we got to hot there would be nothing to control it and we would suffer just like an engine would. that is one way to look at it.

 

[The New Owner]

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Agree with all mentioned above.Very most ofliquid cooled engineshave thethermostat, and if itwas not needed I guess that at least one motor industry in the world would realise that and get rid of the useless part? I know about the situations when the thermostat stick closed so if you don't have the new one to replace you can remove the broken one and run without it to prevent the engine from overheating, but that is only a temporary solution (to get home).

 

[Bike...and Dennis]

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The thermostat, like the oil and air filters, are non-essential. Afterall, you will have traded the bike in before the damage being done shows. Right? :cooldevil:

 

[Rudy]

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You don't need a thermostat in any environment that gets to 180* F. Don't know how far south you have to go for that?

 

[FenderHead]

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Rudy wrote:

You don't need a thermostat in any environment that gets to 180* F. Don't know how far south you have to go for that?

Agreed. But, this thread has got me to wondering...does an engine's optimum (spelled 'efficient')design temperature always coincide with the USEPA mandated emission laws??? Or, is this another example of Government Intervention run amok?? :baffled:

May I submit for your perusal...California EmissionLaws? :action:

It is my belief that the EPA Regs have forced our (all) engines to run too hot...but I would love to be corrected, to learn the truth...:waving:

 

[sandiegobrass]

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FenderHead wrote:

....
May I submit for your perusal...California EmissionLaws? :action:

It is my belief that the EPA Regs have forced our (all) engines to run too hot...but I would love to be corrected, to learn the truth...:waving:

It wasmaybe emission laws that initially pushed the temperature limits upward a little, but thermostats have been around since the '30s... but even the higher temperatures were a win/win situation.. higher temperatures (for more complete burning) also means higher efficiencies (just plain physics).. And maybe initially it might have been "too hot" and pushed the limit in technology of materials and lubricants,better oils and materials have been the result as well...

 

[William_86]

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EMISSIONS???? i've never heard about that around here

 

[Dubswing]

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What emissions? Heh heh!:cheeky1:

Bernie

 

[xodusss]

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Sounds like an old wives tale to me. Have always heard stories about those who run with no tstat. It's there for a reason. It keeps your motor running within a certain operating temperature limit. Cheap to replace

 

[satan]

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William_86 wrote:

EMISSIONS???? i've never heard about that around here

Canoces a "Emsiones" ?? :waving:



:cooldevil:just had t'go there.