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I recently ordered a set of Tourmaster Solution WP Boots from LeatherUp.com, as they had a recent promotion with 15% off all items. :cooler:

Although the area I presently live in is semi-arid and warm, I'll soon be moving to a part of the country that is usually neither. I decided I needed a newpair of dedicatedtouring boots that were functional, stylish and waterproof. My riding bud had also recently bought these boots, as his other dedicated riding boots were worn out and he liked his new Tourmaster WP Boots. So when I saw the sale that LeatherUp was having, I decided to give them a go.

I was a little apprehensive about the sizing and the sole of the boot. I had read reviews that said the sizing was 'spot on', while others said they had to return them for a size larger. :?

Upon further investigation/reading, it turned out that most of those that had to return the boots for a larger size, either had 'high arches' and had a real hard time pulling on the boot because of the smallish gusseted opening, or their foot was a half size and order the next size down, instead of up. Still, I was a little uncertain, but I ordered my usual size 12, anyway.

As for the soles, I read that the 'clung to the foot pegs/highway pegs like glue' That's fine, but how about wet/oily/gravel/mud covered road surfaces. No mention of that.

I knew when they were going to arrive at my US shipping address and decided I would wear an old pair of low cut hikers down and if the Tourmasters fit good, throw the old ones in the trash and wear the Tourmasters home.

I took possession of my new boots and went outside to sit on a bench and eagerly tried the new boots on. While the gussetedopening is a little tight, my foot slid in without much problem and the fit for my feetis best described as 'roomy'. Certainly not tight/small, but not overly large either. This would make the boots cooler in warm/hot weather and warmer in cool/cold weather. There is enough room on the interior of the boot that I can insert my custom orthotics and with them in, it's harder to put the boots on and the boot fitis now 'snug'. I expect that once the boot's insoles are 'broken in' with the use of the orthotics, the boots will have 'loosened' up again and maybe allow wearing a pair of thicker socks if need be. Without the orthotics, there is plenty of room for thick socks.

Once on my feet, I took a little walk around to see how they felt. Although somewhat stiff, I was rather surprised that they were comfortable, right out of the box. :cool:I walked back to pick up my old hikers and marched them right over to a trash can. That's how confident I feltin regards tofoot comfort, withthese new boots.

I fired up the bike and decided to go for a little 'tour' to see how well they performed/felt while riding. 1st thing I noticed is that the toe box is a little narrower than my square toedHarness Boots and it took a bit of practice' to find the gear shift/brake levers. I also found that the soles did indeed grip like glue to the foot pegs/highway pegs. Even if just the edge of the sole caught a corner or either of the pegs, the boot remained right there and didn't show any tendency of wanting to slide off! Another thing that struck me after a couple minutes of riding was how cool they were, even compared to my leather/cordura low-cut hikers. Excellent. When I dropped out of the Highlands and drove through Tonasket(WA), the flashing billboard indicated that the temperature was 106*F/41.2*C and I was surprised that my feet felt as cool as they did.

After 1/2 an hour of riding some twisty sections of backroads leading up into the highlands, I found thatfor newboots, theywere not restrictive as far as 'flexibility' was concerned. Supportive/protective, yes! Restrictingto foot movement/placement, NO!

They are also surprising light, for such a well constructed, high top boot. My size 12 Tourmasters weigh in at 1778g/3.92lbs for the pair, compared to 2247g/5.95lbs for my short Harness boots.

Another thing I discovered with these boots was that since they have a relatively low heel, the heel didn't get caught up on the foot pegs when moving/shifting my foot around, They also provided a little bit better 'ground clearance', when scraping the pegs on the tight stuff. My other boots had the habit of catching the road with it's heel. :X

I did notice that because of that same lower heel, I had to get used to that fact, whenever I stopped and put my foot down. I had to 'reach' a little bit further, compared to my thicker soled/heeled, Harness boots.

As far as how the soles fared with gravel/mud/wet and/or oily road surface, I didn't really encounter any of those elements, although at one hilly intersection, I found that they didn't provide quite the same, secure footing feeling as my lugged sole boots. I suspect that therelatively flat,'textured' sole/heel surfaces will wear rather quickly if you do much walking in them,(they are comfortable towalk in) making their 'grip' a little more uncertain.

I guess the water proof test for these boots will come when I go an an upcoming 2 week tour to Glacier/Yellowstone/Grand Teton NPs. Weget less than 10"of precip a year here. When it does rain here, it's just brief 'showers'. :p

I'll update this review, as I get more 'ride time' in with the boots and discover their strengths and weaknesses. As it stands now, I'm quite happy with them.





Here are a few shots of the boots I took. -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dusty-boots/sets/72157619184574363/show/


Dusty
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I searched leather up for about 3 days trying to find some boots I liked that I thought would fit. I have wide feet, normally wear a 9 1/2 EE. All the boots I liked the look of don't come in EE. I really wanted some cordura boots too but can't find those in anything but steel toe. I ended up ordering some police tactical boots from Amazon.com. I really like the look of your boots but alas no EEs.
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Hi David.

I take a DD width boot and I have no issues with the width of the boot. In fact there is plenty of width left in the boot. Not so as to be sloppy, but without the orthotics in, I can easily wear a thick pair of socks and still not have my feet feel 'squished'.

Seeing as you say you wear a 9 1/2, you would need to order a 10 and that might give you enough width to be comfortable. :baffled:Best way to know for sure, is to try a pair on, if you can.

I did a search for the Little Rock area for a dealer who carries the Tourmaster Line and came up with SEARCY YAM SUZ KAW, who can be reached @ 501-268-8826. I know you have bought new boots, but it might be worthwhile to give 'em a call.


Dusty
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Looks like a wonderful boot there Dusty. In my case I had to find a 7 1/2 EEEE, yep try to find something like that. I had to finally have it custom made, and what a fit it is. Best boot over that last 48 years I have ever had. Fot those that can not buy a boot over the counter I got mine by an American Dealer Custom made. A great man to deal with as I had to return my boots twice for a correct fit and he never charged me any additional money for the new set of boots he had to make again for me. They are pricey, but well worth it. Again, if you need a custom boot try http://www.fineboots.com. I can say this can't I? I'm not making anything, just pleased with the results.:clapper:
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SpiderBob wrote:
I had to finally have it custom made and.... They are pricey ... http://www.fineboots.com/

Pricey? ..... that's bit of an understatement Bob!!! :shock: :doh:

Glad they are working out for you!
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Wish my feet were like most others but their not. Finding a b width boot is an exteme
challenge. Glad those tourmasters worked out. Will continue to wear my laceup redwings.
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Dusty Boots wrote:
SpiderBob wrote:
I had to finally have it custom made and.... They are pricey ... http://www.fineboots.com/

Pricey? ..... that's bit of an understatement Bob!!! :shock: :doh:

Glad they are working out for you!
I had no choice, either those or oversized sneakers.
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Thanks Dusty, if the boots I ordered don't work out I may go up there and try them. That's right next door to where I got my wing, Sunrise Honda, it's the same people. They probably have them at the Honda store too. The boots I have on my feet right now are D width Ariats and they fit fine, some brands do. Ariat makes a nice looking motorcycle boot too.
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DaveO430 wrote:
Thanks Dusty, if the boots I ordered don't work out I may go up there and try them. That's right next door to where I got my wing, Sunrise Honda, it's the same people. They probably have them at the Honda store too. The boots I have on my feet right now are D width Ariats and they fit fine, some brands do. Ariat makes a nice looking motorcycle boot too.
I hear ya Dave, That's what I meant when I said about " I normallytake just under a size 12(11 3/4?)and ordered a 12. It all depends on the shoe last that they make/size them with. Hopefully I won't have to send them back for a larger size." in JLuvs2Dive's posting about his newIcon Accelerant Bootposting.

In the 'Ole Days' the shoe lasts(foot-beds) were a standardized size here. Then when 'Globalization' made it's debut and most shoe/boot manufacturing packed up andwent East, the lasts sizing changed to the smaller/narrower Asian lasts. Everything we came to know/trust about our familiar North American sizing, changed. 10 became the new 12. There are a fewboot/shoe manufacturersusing the old, North American lasts, so that's why it is vital to try them on 1st. Okay, enough 'tech talk'.

Go try ona pair and see how they fit. I spent all day in mine today and they felt good, cool in 80*F sunny weather, and am now used to the narrower, rounded toe box. Only minor complaint is if you have are standing/sitting with your foot tilted on it's side, the molded ankle cup digs in a little, but I'm sure that willdisappear as they break in. If I were wearing my Orthotics, it would have raised my heel/ankle enough that I wouldn't have felt it. They are getting a little easier to put on/take off.

So, if you decide to check/try them out, head on over. Besides, it'll give ya a good excuse for a nice little ride/destination on the bike :action:



Cheers, Ken
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Like I need an excuse. :cheeky1::action:
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:waving:I see that LeatherUp.com is having another of their 15% off sales, which includes these boots. :waving:

The sale ends 06/23/09

In order to get the sale price, you must enter the promotional code" 101048 " in the promotional code box at the bottom left hand side ofthe page upon 'check out' . You end up paying $99.44 for the boots, plus a shipping charge of $7.95, regardless ofthe amount that you order.

Not connected in any way, just giving you all a heads up to save a few bucks if you were thinking on buying/ordering these boots.

Dusty
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Thought that I would update this topic, since I've put on better than4,000 miles on these boots, through all kinds of conditions.

Likes

1st off, they are getting more comfortable as the miles go by. Not that they were in any way uncomfortable at any time, but getting my size 12 DD feet in and out of the opening of the boot has become easier, and the leather while quite protective, has become more........ flexible for a fairly thick leather boot. Quality/fit/finish is very good! No problems with the zippers, which have an added zipper 'pull' to make zipping/unzipping easier to do. The Velcro closures/patchesseems to be good quality and works well.No 'Funk Factor' from the lining material of the boot as of yet, despite being worn for over 10 hours a day at times. :cooler:

I find the fit and overall 'volume' of the boot to be fine/generous for my lower arched foot. Those who have high arches may find the boot tight and more difficult to get on/off. There is plenty of room to wear a thick pair of socks if needed.I find the fit just about perfect leaving enough room to help keep my foot cool when it's warm/hot and warm enough when it is cool/cold out.I was riding in mid 30* temps for a few hours and my feet were warm enough. The boot is reasonably cool enough when defending off high engine heat and heat from the road/air. I also like the overall height of the boot, giving me protection to about 2/3 of my shin area.

I've run in quite a bit of good rain/hail storms recently, once for 2 hours where it was coming down so hard the cagers were slowing down. Once, after an hour, I thought I was detecting a leak in my right boot(Toe Area), but upon examination afterwards, I found my sockto be dry. I guess what I was feeling was the coolness of the cold rain/hail coming through the toe of the boot and not rain/water. I have stood in 6" of water while loading/unloading my tour box and my feet were dry and happy. :goofygrin:

I also like the narrower toe profilethan my regular 'Harness'riding boots, which have the squared off toe. It took a little getting used to finding the shifter at 1st, but find no problems now. I also think the look a little more 'stealthier' than my Harness boots, when off the bike and walking around the store etc.

Dislikes/Improvements

Any dislikes I have about these boots concern the sole. While they are 'grippy' in their own right, gripping the pegs/shifter/pedals very well,I find mud, loose gravel and rain slickened oil patches to be something to watch out for when you place your foot down. I unknowingly stood in a bunch of mud while stopped along the side of a bridge to shoot some photos. When I got under way, my right boot was very slippery on the foot peg, with the mud that had clung to the underside of the sole. My foot/boot almost slid off twice.:shock: I stopped after a few miles and cleaned the mud off of the peg and the boot sole with some 'puddle water'.

I find that they could do with a steel arch support, as my arch would get fatigued after 5-6 hours of riding with the arch of the boot resting on the foot peg. I would shift my footing position around and it would be fine. I suppose wearing my custom orthotics would alleviate this problem. While walking, I never noticed a problem and in fact found the boots very comfortable to walk in. This leads me to the final criticism of the boot's sole/heel, in that I can already detect wear from walking. Maybe a little heavier rubber compound, or a bit of a lugged Vibram sole would make these boots very hard to beat for comfort/durability/protection /value.

Overall, I really like these boots and would not hesitate to buy them again, especially with the 15% discount! :cooldevil:



Dusty
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I cheaped out and ordered these from leatherup,com.http://www.leatherup.com/p/Mens-Mot...-Motorcycle-Tornado-Xelement-Boots/41765.html. I took them for a 430 mile ride today and am happy with them. I got a 1/2 size larger to allow room for heavy socks in winter. I didn't even think about my feet all day, plenty comfortable. It was in the high 90s and one time 102 f. and my feet never got hot, relatively speaking of course. It rained on me for about a 5 mile stretch, not real hard though so I can't say yet if they repel water. These too have deep tread on the sole and will probably pick up mud or whatever else. They do seem to be well made for the price.
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I wish I could order boots off the shelf.

My foot size is 11 EEEEEE and even at www.REI.com who has a local store here, I cannot find a pair of shoes, or boots that fit me. My feet have very high arches with my instep measuring 1.5" from flat floor. The top of my instep is 4.5" high from a flat floor. And my toe box is 4.5" wide, with the 2nd & 3rd toes being almost as long as the big toe, only a 1/4 inch difference to 2nd, 1/4" shorter to 3rd. No one makes a square toe box that big!

My searches have come up with a couple of boot makers who will do a custom build to your dimensions, but at $550 per pair of boots, I sucked wind a bit and backed off. I need a fairy god mother to leave me an inheritance before I spend that much on riding boots.

I also noticed that in the last ten years, that boots that always were "close enough" to being my width, are now a full 1" too narrow. That includes Redwings which I used to wear altogether. Those Asians just don't have any idea of what size our feet are?
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Me too John, I have a high arch and instep and a wide EE foot but can usually find a boot that will work, like I lucked out with these I just got. It is hard enough just finding a EE never mind your EEEEE. I have had a pair of pull on work boots for 10 years trying to break them in to my feet and they still hurt my instep.
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Just thought I'd mention for anyone interested inthese boots andsaving a few dolllars in the process, LeatherUp.com is having another of their 15% off sales, which lasts until 08-28-09.

When you order the boots and are 'checking out', enter the Promotional Code - 101050 in the promotional box on the page and the boots will cost you($116.99 minus 15%{$17.54}) just $99.44 plus the $7.95 unlimited amount shipping fee, for a grand total of $107.39
An very good buy on a very good boot. :clapper:

Again, .... not an employee of either companies, just a satisfied boot owner. ;)

Dusty
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DustyBoots, I have the exact same boots...wore them to Colorado and back in '07...a bit warm in the warmer weather but I love them. Found them to be waterproof and very comfortable to walk in.
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Anyone had any luck in finding boots in size 15W??
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I'm thinking these or the Sidi On Roads. Nice.
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