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Because of leg and ankle problems I may be forced to go to a training wheel kit:(because I can`t afford a real trike kit. has anyone had experience riding this type conversion? I guess I should mention I rid a 96 gl1500se



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I should mention I am looking at two pac or voyger
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Had a Voyager kit on a harley sportster. It was a good piece of kit,and I would not hesitate to buy one if I wanted a poor man's trike. It would also allow you to use a car tire on the rear wheel.
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I had to install a tow-pac on my 1500 for the same reason as you bad ankle. I love it made riding so much eaiser. I made a few figure 8's in an empty parking lot to get used to steering it then took off on a hundred mile ride. First red light I came to down came the feet when I stopped. It is hard to break old habbits. Now it is a joy to ride real slow,and come to a stop. Down side is that I have a rougher ride and more tire noise. Maybe a couple of mpg less, and twice I have stopped on unevenground where the outside tires are holding the bike up and the drive tire could not get enough traction to take off. Just backed up a little to let the drive tire down enough to get a bite and away you go. It hasgave me many more years of riding,plus twice now guys have came up to me wanting to know about the training wheels, they want to get a set. I got my set used off of craigs list 1200.00 instead of the 3 grand new. Wish I had done it sooner. Bob
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I have one the wife loves it,It is the independent suspension so the wheels wont come up like the voyger kit,To me it is as close to a trike as you can get with the suspension being like it is.Plus the wife can drive me around now lol.
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hey wingers thanks for the info:clapper:



thanks ron:bowing:
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I had a Voyager installed a couple of years ago on my 93 GL1500 at Bike Week in Daytona. It cost around $4300. After riding it for a couple of years, I still enjoy the freedom of not having to put your feet down when you stop and trying balance the bike. I dropped my bike a couple of times when my foot slipped when it was wet. Not Fun.
You loose ground clearance with the Voyager. This has been a problem going over high speed bumps. I also had trouble loading the trike on a trailer because the ramp angle was too steep. I ended up building a ramp extension so I could load it in my toy hauler travel trailer.
I had a scare when riding my "trike" on the Natchez Trace Parkway last summer. I hit a monster chuck hole in a construction zone and the Voyager Kit came loose from the rear hangers. My bike leaned over drastically and I thought I was going to loose it. I was only going about 20 MPH when it happened. I was lucky I didn't loose it. The next problem was trying to reconnect the rear trike suspension back in the hangers which are mounted to the rear of the swing arm. I had to remove the trike kit entirely then reinstall. It was nearly impossible because the sholder on the side of the road was not level. Two guys stopped and helped me. If it wasn't for them I would have had to call a tow truck. I don't think the Voyager is 100% safe. If my wife was riding with me her extra weight would have caused us to crash. I called Voyager and they said there was nothing they could do correct the problem and they still feel the kit is safe.
I am still riding my trike. Riding the Voyager Trike Kit has several safety advantages expecially when riding in the rain. IT IS NOT 100% SAFE.
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A better alternative to me.

http://www.trikealternative.com/retractatrike.shtml
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I bought an '89 last summer that has a tow-pac. After about three weeks I took it off. Didn't like the handling at all. Just can't lean into the corners at speed, and the ride is rougher. It gets a little squirrely if one of the wheels comes off the ground on a curve. You'll just have to understand that you can't take the corners as fast. If you truly need it, then go for it. They are very easy to put on and take off - less than ten minutes. So if in the future, you get your leg and ankle problems fixed, you can easily go back to two-wheelin'.
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Deno sounds like you need to adjuist your axles,Mine has never came up,I live on top of a mountain and do twistys every day and havent had a problem best of luck,Like I said its nice to let the wife drive some times.
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http://www.triggtrikes.com/

Check this one out before you make a decision!
The most important things to realize when looking at a convertible trike are longevity, handling, and safety.

The Voyager is the only kit tested by an independent engineering firm because we care about longevity and safety. If you have a kit that hooks up to a Goldwing's bag bars, it's only a matter of time before there's a failure in strength.

Weak connection points are a cause of less safety and constant maintenance.

For handling, you need a trike that will keep you upright and stable. If a convertible trike has independent wheel suspension (on each outrigger wheel), turning will be more difficult. This is because we going around a curve, the outside wheel suspension will give forcing you to lean more to the outside of the curve as compared with the Voyager trike. This gives you the sensation of being on a boat and makes curves more difficult. The Voyager will keep you more upright and keeps its preload on the road making turning the easier.

Also, for the best possible handling, you need to make sure the outrigger wheels are within 3" of the motorcycles rear axle. If it is outside of this, you will feel a drag and looseness in turns.
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If the new systems are no better than the ones a few years ago, these things will attempt to kill you. If there is ANY crown to the road where and when you retract the wheels you will be turning, FAST! They keep the bike perpendicular to the road, if there it any tilt, you WILL be in an instant turn as soon as you are back on two.

I know this from first hand experience!!


Bill
Tow Pac is about 90 miles south of me, so when I became interested in doing a conversion, I went down there and talked to them at length and ultimately bought an Insta Trike kit... I had also recently test ridden a bunch of different trikes at Niehaus Cycle in Litchfield, Illinois, so I had a great basis for comparison...

No doubt that a full conversion handles better and offers other amenities, but a full conversion is realistically 15 grand or more... My Tow Pac cost me 3K (demo model) and another 400 bucks for paint...

There are a myriad of adjustments on an Insta Trike kit and it is important you understand how to do the adjustments and how they interact with each other... I have had several conversations with Jeremy at Tow Pac and have made some adjustments and I am quite satisfied with the way mine handles...

Yes it steers harder in the turns but once you have your adjustments dialed in, it is a pleasure to ride... And, it is 1/5 the cost of a full trike conversion and it comes off in about 5 minutes for riding on 2 wheels again (which I still do)... Given the fact I spent significantly less than 15K, I can certainly live with the increased steering effort...

My legs are not what they used to be and neither is my upper body strength and the Tow Pac Insta Trike was great solution for me... It's not for everyone, but worked well for my solution...

Les
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By the way, I forgot to mention that the gentleman that owns Tow Pac was the inventor/owner of Voyager as well... According to him, he left the Voyager partnership because the other 2 partners (non-techy types) were more concerned about the bottom line than they were about product quality... That is what I was told by the owner of Tow Pac be it factual or not...

Les
By the way, I forgot to mention that the gentleman that owns Tow Pac was the inventor/owner of Voyager as well... According to him, he left the Voyager partnership because the other 2 partners (non-techy types) were more concerned about the bottom line than they were about product quality... That is what I was told by the owner of Tow Pac be it factual or not...

Les
The owner of Tow-Pac’s previous Voyager partners declined adding his new invention (now called the Tow-Pac) to the product line because the kit attaches to a GL's bag bars - the bars that could be easy bent, compressed or broken with standard size hand pliers; the bars not made to withstand long-term stress. This was not a secure location to attach.

He thought it was strong enough so decided to start his own company. The Voyager trike kit has been tested for strain and stress, ensuring the frame's longevity (through DATASYST in Wisconsin). The Tow-Pac has not been tested professionally.

Just saying this to keep it factual.
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This might be out of line and off-topic?

This set-up is listed on Spokane Craigs List on a 1500. I don't think it is made by either of the companies the original poster asked about, in fact I don't know who built it. It does not mention it in the listing.

I was wondering if anyone knows what it is and what the handling characteristics are compared to the two mentioned. This one looks to be mounted mid-ship.

Is it a home-made? I don't have a 1500 so I can't imagine the mount set-up, or if it's cobbled together.



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My wife's cousin was having trouble with his 1500. It went over on him twice on one trip, (he is short, his toes just touch the road when sitting on the bike). They even thought he broke his leg. This happened while low speed maneuvering
in parking lots. So he sold the 1500 and bought a 1800 and installed a similar kit
as is being discussed here. He loves it. I don't know which manufacture it is but
he wouldn't be without it. For him the cost of a full trike conversion was out of reach and this was a good alternative.
Because of leg and ankle problems I may be forced to go to a training wheel kit:(because I can`t afford a real trike kit. has anyone had experience riding this type conversion? I guess I should mention I rid a 96 gl1500se



thanks ron
I have bad knees and a bad ankle that will eventually need operated on. Tow pac and voyager seem like cool options. But I am thinking ahead that it would be cool to find a sidecar rig vs. going trike. Thats just my preference. GL1500 trikes cost a bit more than the sidecar rigs I've seen. But GL1200 trikes seem to cost about as much as a GL1500 sidecar rig. Maybe you could go with a GL1200 trike. Maybe find a nice LTD or SEi trike.
That is the only one I have seen like that.
I am thinking it involved a lot of "out of the box" thinking, and yes, it is mounted forward of the rear axle.

Looks like it would be very stable. I would check it out.

This might be out of line and off-topic?

This set-up is listed on Spokane Craigs List on a 1500. I don't think it is made by either of the companies the original poster asked about, in fact I don't know who built it. It does not mention it in the listing.

I was wondering if anyone knows what it is and what the handling characteristics are compared to the two mentioned. This one looks to be mounted mid-ship.

Is it a home-made? I don't have a 1500 so I can't imagine the mount set-up, or if it's cobbled together.



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