OK thanks everyone, guess I'll try tfdeputydawgs idea then go from there, i still have to wait a few weeks, still snowing here in upsate western NY, was just looking for a ball park to start with, I rebuilt the foreks, new front tire and added a 6 dgree rake kit so I'm sure the handling will be different, also built a trailer that carries around 500 lbs so i'm sure things will be alot different in handling this year.