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Let me say this as simply as possible: If you are still using XP, you are the end-user equivalent of an anti-vaxxer. You are a menace to society and everyone around you. You are a walking malware vector. You should be shipped out to a remote island with no internet access to fend for yourselves so you can't infect anyone else.

And, if you are an IT professional who serves in a decision-making capacity with an organization that continues to use XP or Windows Server 2003 and SQL Server 2005, you should be fired. You should never be allowed to work in the computer industry again.

You should not be allowed to touch a computer again either because you too are a menace. You are perpetuating the computer software equivalent of polio and smallpox.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/if-youre-still-using-windows-xp-youre-a-menace-to-society/
 

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I have only one that runs XP pro but it has games on it. I put the recent update for 5-13-2017 in it yesterday to protect it from ransomeware, like a criminal wants to hold a computer hostage over some games. :ROFL:
I have Windows 7 and it still works.
I'm thinking about getting a second hand Apple laptop from fleabay. Want to try one and see how good they are or a spare hard drive for the Itronix and put Linux Mint on it.
Big companies or organizations shouldn't be using outdated operating systems, too much information to put at risk. If you're playing games that's not a problem.
 

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I have only one that runs XP pro but it has games on it. I put the recent update for 5-13-2017 in it yesterday to protect it from ransomeware, like a criminal wants to hold a computer hostage over some games. :ROFL:
I have Windows 7 and it still works.
I'm thinking about getting a second hand Apple laptop from fleabay. Want to try one and see how good they are or a spare hard drive for the Itronix and put Linux Mint on it.
Big companies or organizations shouldn't be using outdated operating systems, too much information to put at risk. If you're playing games that's not a problem.
I agree. I'm running Win7 and do not want to upgrade to 10.
Every time Microsoft comes out with with a new operating system, a lot of the older software no longer runs.
 

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I agree. I'm running Win7 and do not want to upgrade to 10.
Every time Microsoft comes out with with a new operating system, a lot of the older software no longer runs.
The only thing I have found that will not run on WIN10 (some versions) is Windows Live Mail.
It runs on my desktop but will not run on my laptop. I run MailClient on the laptop.
 

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I agree. I'm running Win7 and do not want to upgrade to 10.
Every time Microsoft comes out with with a new operating system, a lot of the older software no longer runs.

This is why I and others do not wish to upgrade.

It is just too damn expensive to


  1. Replace the hardware
  2. Replace the software with bad results
  3. new software means old applications don't work the same, or at all.
  4. and I have no interest in spending a lot of time trying to revamp old apps into new ones... or recreating the wheel just so that I can get back to "business as usual"
I have a friend who has 3 WinXP desktops on his home WiFi network.
I was just over there yesterday installing new drivers for his brand new HP WiFi printer.


His XP computers are dead unless he is sitting in front of them and powers them up, so as far as he, and myself is concerned, there is almost zero risk of outside malware bothering him. And so far, that has been the case for him.


My personal desktop is Win7 and is online 24/7 and it has never been hit with any serious malware, and this is now the sixth year that it has been online 24/7.


I have a dedicated firewall in the AT&T ADSL modem/router.
Win7 has its' own firewall.
I have run tests several times testing for hacking attempts that can get access to my PC, and it has "so far" been totally impervious to outside attempts to get into it.


I also feel, that my web browsing habits are good enough to keep me from falling for "click bait"... at least most of the time :)
 

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Please pull the plug and make me WHOLE!!! I use XP.... I have 3 laptops but there using XP as well, and usually there sitting since I dont play games anymore so I dont need extra computers and Auto-players with scripts.
 

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The company I work for spent $105,000 on a manufacturer refurbished piece of equipment (we got if for half of list price) six months ago that runs XP. The equipment was new in 2013.

The equipment manufacturer will not support running on any operating system newer than XP because of changes Microsoft made that prevents the equipment software from writing to subdirectories underneath it subdirectory in the Program Files directory.

Most businesses don't need all of the "new features" in Windows 7/8/8.1/10. Remember that to kill XP Microsoft had to give Windows 10 away for free.
 

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The equipment manufacturer will not support running on any operating system newer than XP because of changes Microsoft made that prevents the equipment software from writing to subdirectories underneath it subdirectory in the Program Files directory.
I have to give Microsoft an A grade on that change as binaries should be the only thing allowed in "Program Files", everything else should be in user land.

However not allowing exceptions for programs written under the old policy is inexcusable.
 

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My strategy, Win 3.1, VisiCalc, NetScape and a 300 baud acoustical modem!

I'm safe from everyone except maybe Kevin Mitnick.

:ROFL:
 

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here're some words to take to heart...

Update does not equal upgrade

precisely !!!


that is exactly why I have AUTO UPDATE turned OFF on my Android phone....
it works just fine the way it is, I have read of way too many forum posts where Android newbies just blithely update everything all at once..... and then the start screaming because "this damn thing is broken"
 

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Here're some words to take to heart...

Update does not equal upgrade
I see you upgraded from GL1100 to GL1500

I have 3 computers using windows 10 pro

my desktop, laptop and Home Theater PC. All since the initial release, all suffer no problems.

all of them running i5 cpu's they were running windows 7.
 

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I see you upgraded from GL1100 to GL1500

I have 3 computers using windows 10 pro

my desktop, laptop and Home Theater PC. All since the initial release, all suffer no problems.

all of them running i5 cpu's they were running windows 7.
So, you updated the OS on your PC's and I ride an updated model of Goldwing now instead of my older daily driver. Good for us. But you didn't know that. My current daily ride might have been the 1100. You assumed since the 1500 was newer, it was my current ride and an "upgrade." I know of some members here that have went from 1500s to 1200s because the 1200 fit them and their riding style better. Did they downgrade just because the bike was older?
Now, if you'd have went to an i7, that would have been an upgrade. Or even added more RAM. Another upgrade. Better graphics card. Yep, upgrade, too. All you did was update your OS.
 

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My laptop came with Windows 8.1 and I've been using Windows for decades - from 3.1 through Vista, ME, XP, 7, and 8.1. It seems each new version took up more and more disk space, and RAM, and ran slower. Last year I decided to split the laptop disk in two - I keep 8.1 for some of my applications that need it, but for everyday use I boot up in Linux Mint. I used various versions of linux back when I was working so I'm somewhat familiar with it, but even if you've never used it you can get up to speed with it pretty quickly, and it's a much better OS - it's just too bad that a lot of Windows-based programs won't run on it...
 

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Over 98% of wannacry victims were using Windows 7
So, is this instead of or in addition to your original post that says all this about XP
Let me say this as simply as possible: If you are still using XP, you are the end-user equivalent of an anti-vaxxer. You are a menace to society and everyone around you. You are a walking malware vector. You should be shipped out to a remote island with no internet access to fend for yourselves so you can't infect anyone else.
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So you're saying that Windows 1.0 would be safest version if you're going down the Microsoft path?:surprise:
What I mean is why attack XP when you can go after 7 or newer since more people would be using those.
I wonder if it bothered any Apple Mac computers?
 
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