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I just got the 84 Aspy back together after changing my front tire and took it for a ride. It has a whine sound to it now that sounds like bearings. Also the front end feels extremely heavy now.

I had my front wheel loose about a month ago to change out my rotor covers. I could not get the left cover off without removing the nut on the end of the axel. When I replaced the nut, I found that I did not have a socket big enough to fit the nut so I guesstimated the torque using an open end wrench. I had no problems and the bike operated normally and I had no noises and the front end felt the way it did before I messed with it.

Now, When I was putting it back together after replacing the front tire, I had a socket and torqued it down to what the book says. I have bearing noise and the front end feels very tight and heavy.

I just talked with a friend of mine and he asked one of his co-workers, who was rode nbikes all his life and he said that he never torques the front axel down to what the book says. He claims that it is far too tight and it will cause bearing noise. He says that he just tightens them down very snugly and does not worry about torque and has never had a problem.

Would it hurt to back it off a little and see what happens? I don't think that once everythig is together that there is anyway for the axel to come apart is there? All opinions are welcome as I need to get this thing back on the road.

 

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Fork caps are on with arrows facing forward.

As I took things apart, I laid all out so that parts from the right stayed on the right and parts from the left stayed on the left. I followed the book step by step while putting back together.

I was by no means going to leave the axel loose, I was just going to back it off a little and maybe only put it down to say 20 or 30 lbs torque instead of the 44 that the book calls for. 44 seems awful tight.

You mentioned a spacer inside the wheel hub that spaces the bearings. Is that something that is inside the wheel? Would I see this spacer without removing the bearings? Could it fall out some way?

 

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Well, I just went out and dismantled my front end and re-built it again. Took the bike for a short ride and heard the noise again. I think that I have discounted the wheel noise and am now looking at something else.

I just read another post Noise on an 85 Aspencade and I believe that this is also my problem. I took the bike out and got up to about 35 and pulled in the clutch and that is when I heard the noise. It lessened in intensity with a decrease in speed. I went back and forth on the road by my house listening to the noise. On one pass, I shifted the bike into neutral and the noise was gone. I now feel that the noise is internal and may just be the transmission whine.

I have to admit that after replacing the wheel and riding the bike for the first time, I was listening for anything and when I heard this, I freaked. I now think that this niose has always been present but just never noticed or just plain ignored as normal.

 

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Thanks for the reply SilverDave but as I stated in my previous post, I have eliminated the front wheel as the source of the sound. As I said, I got the bike up to speed and then pulled in the clutch to coast, I heard the noise. I then done it again only this time, I shifted into neutral and coasted and there was no noise. This is why I am now convinced that it is in the tranny. Unless someone knows different, I am going to concentrate on the innards of the motor / tranny.

 

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wingdawg101 wrote:

it sounds like "Clutch Whine", Which the plates need cleaning via "Sea Foam"

This is my next project. I am going to drain off about a quart of oil and fill it back up with either Seafoam or MMO and runit for a while and then drain and install a new filter and fill it up with fresh Castrol GTX 20W50 oil. I believe that the PO (which lived in Minnesota) was running 5w oil and I think that is way to thin for the Kansas heat.

 

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My Toyota Tacoma runs 5W30. It is almost the consistency of milk. I believe that that is what is in my wing.

 

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rcmatt007 wrote:

okay, I will ask for forgiveness ahead of time for this.....

but.....

would you like some cheese with that wine?:gunhead::crying:

I'd take a nice hunk of Maytag Blue Cheese. :goofygrin: :grinner: :goofygrin: :grinner:

 

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Thanks Paul. The noise is transmission/clutch related. I am no longer worried about it. I do believe that it was there before the tire change and I was just listening too hard for something that wasn't there.

As for the handling, I am chocking that one up to the grip of the new tire.

As I said, the oil in the bike now is very thin and I am going to change it to 20w50 Castrol. Should make things much quieter.

 

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Thanks for that Paul. I'll keep that in mind. I rode about 10 miles on them today (had to make it a quickie...thunderstorm moving in) and they perform quite nicely. My old rear tire was cupped so I really noticed an improvement in the rear. The front was ok but I think the "tighter" handling is the fact that the new tire has far better grip. I like the way the bike handles now. I just have to get used to it being tight. I was so used to it being loose and the cupped rear tire shifting while cornering that it feels so much different now. I will be taking it easy until I get used to the new set up. It is like riding a new bike.

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Thanks Rocky. You hit the nail on the head. I am hearing transmission noise. I hear the noise when I run the bike up to about 30 to 40 mph in first gear and then pull in the clutch and coast. I freaked out because, 1) I had never noticed the noise before and or 2) I had justpulled the front wheel for a tire change and reinstalled it so I was listening for anything abnormal that would indicate a problem.

Ionly hear the noise when I leave the bike in first gear. If I shift into neutral or into second, it goes away. I know that it is normal noise. Well, maybe flushing with MMO or Seafoam will help it a little.

 

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I went out this evening and drained off 1 quart of oil from my engine. I put in a quart of MMO to replace it. I 0'd out the trip meter and will run the MMO for about 200 to 300 miles and then do a filter change, drain all oil and fill with fresh Castrol 20W50.

I compared the oil that I removed to the oil that I put in my truck. (5w30) Both oils look very similar in consistancy. I do believe that the P.O. was using 5wxx oil in the bike. It should quiet down once itis cleaned out and the new 20w50 oil is added.

I'll report back my findings.