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Well, whilst you are twiddling your thumbs waiting for Tanygaer to get his A.... into gear, you might want to familiarize yourself with the areas you are going to be dealing with.
The lower light cluster that you want to install the lights in are easily accessed, by undoing three black headed nuts on the back wall of the panniers. This will release the whole light cluster and when you have it out, you will find an area at the rear that has not been cut out for light fittings.Release the indicator bulb holder.You will need to get a suitable sized core bit and a slow running battery or powered drill and drill out the hole, to the correct size of the pre marked lines. You will also see that there are two small areas outside the hole that will need cutting or filing out. These are to accept the holders which will line up, push in and twist to lock into place.
Remove swarf from the lamp housing by shaking out and if you can vacuuming out the last bits by getting clever with the Dyson or whatever you have.
You will also see that the indicator wiring is clamped where it comes from inside the pannier. I chose not to get involved with sending additional wires through there, but rather to cut a small X shaped slot in the back top of the big rubber boot/ grommet that is recessed to take the indicator lamp holder when the lamp is back in place.
The chances are, Tanygaer will be telling you to wire into the existing upper lights.
You will be best to remove the central rear mudguard section and to do this, undo the five Allen bolts. one is located under the licence plate holder, just to make it a pain. With the bolts removed ( no need to remove the actual licence plate bracket) if you grab the lower part of the mudguard, you should be able to release it by wiggling and pulling at the same time.
Inside your panniers, you may see a very small hole in the top, rear, innermost corner, this I found to be a suitable place to take the wires through and the hole will need enlarging to allow the wires to all go through. I found drilling from the inside of the pannier easiest and just take it nice and slow.
If you have a Maplins near to you, they sell some very nice cable tidy shrouding quite cheaply and in long lengths, this is a good investment to cover and protect the wires easily, alternatively some plastic tubing may be handy and with a craft knife a slot can be cut all the way down it to make it easy to slip over the wires.
Now is time to stick your head into the top box... in there you will find three more of those black headed nuts at the rear of the box wall, these will be holding the upper light cluster. There are three more for the other side. You will need a slim socket, to access one of these as it is recessed. Undoing these nuts releases the lamp cluster for each side and they should pull out easily.
To the side walls of the top box you will find four more nuts, on each side, undoing the lower two on each side will release the panel running under the trunk/ top box. The top two on each side releases the trims, and there is a central nut under the centre where the trims have just come off of,that needs undoing to start removing the panel under the top box. ( I can't quite remember but there may be a couple more nuts to undo from under where the trims came off.
You will need to jiggle the panel out and it can be a pain in the arse to get off and clear the trunk and pannier release levers, but you will eventually succeed.
The wiring from each lamp unit goes down through a hole to under the top box and this is whereI believe you will be breaking into the wiring to add the wires from the pannier lights.
You will need to run three wires from the back of the panniers with enough tails on them to reach to the lamp holders that you will be adding in the cluster, up to the underside of the trunk. Of course, you may like to take one set from one pannier to the other and make the join in there rather than running two sets of three wires up to the underside of the trunk. This is how Iran mine.
From here on, my installation differs from Tanygaer's, because I have the trim lights and Tanygaer doesn't. So he will have to explain how he has integrated the wires into the loom at the underside of the trunk.
I just had a look at Cyclemax site and unfortunately they must be out of stock of the holders that you might like to fit, as they are not showing as in stock. Itis possible to buy rear lamp holders that will fit from either a Halfords or even a scrap dealer.
Hope this gets you going on information and if it all gets too much to read, sorry about that. :waving::waving:
