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I have a 1997 1500 SE Goldwing. The battery that was in the bike went dead and was like that for some time before I replaced it. I charged the new battery and put it in, I went to start the engine and it would not turn over. I noticed when I turn on the ignition switch all the lights on the dash come on except the Neutral Light. Every thing on the bike works except t he neutral light and won't start..


I made sure that the transmission was in neutral and the rear wheel spun free..


Does any one might know what the problem might be??


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Check the 5-amp start/reverse fuse.

It powers the reverse lever switch.

The reverse lever switch (when the reverse handle is down) powers the following:

1. Neutral light bulb. (Not part of the starting circuit)........!!

2. Triggers the reverse relay switch (which provides a ground to trigger the starter relay (solenoid) A for starting. (Part of the starting circuit)

Have you tried working the reverse lever up and down a few times...?? Maybe the switch is stuck...!

Have you tried starting it in gear with the clutch lever pulled in to the hand grip....??
 

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Check the 5-amp start/reverse fuse.

It powers the reverse lever switch.

The reverse lever switch (when the reverse handle is down) powers the following:

1. Neutral light bulb. (Not part of the starting circuit)........!!

2. Triggers the reverse relay switch (which provides a ground to trigger the starter relay (solenoid) A for starting. (Part of the starting circuit)

Have you tried working the reverse lever up and down a few times...?? Maybe the switch is stuck...!

Have you tried starting it in gear with the clutch lever pulled in to the hand grip....??
I moved the reverse lever up and down and it didn't work. I have also sat on the bike and put it in gear and pulled the clutch in and it still won't turn over.. I noticed last night when pushing the starter switch there was a clicking sound coming from the box that sits next to the main fuse box on the left hand side right in front of the saddle bag, but I couldn't figure out how to get the cover off..

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time to ask the group for help- who has a tech manual for the OP? 97 1500 SE

Also ck youtube- there are numerous Wing repair vids showing how to remove covers
and www.goldwingdocs.com has lots of helpful pics on most jobs
 

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First, welcome to the forum. :waving:

DBohrer is probably right on the money. He often is.
But just for grins, have you checked the kill switch? Maybe the light and starting are 2 different issues.
 

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No Neutral Light

Did you check the # 9 start/reverse 5-amp fuse like I recommended...,??

If so and it was good,

Remove the seat,

Locate the Red 22-pin connector (with 22 wires) at the right rear side (might be in a black plastic case).

With the reverse lever down,

Check for voltage on the Black/White wire. Should have voltage.

With the reverse lever up,

Check for voltage on the White/Blue wire. Should have voltage.

If voltage on these two wires the reverse lever switch is good. You have power to the neutral light bulb and the reverse diode assembly.

Note: This is a much easier way to check the reverse lever switch compared to removing the left fairing inner cover........!!

Let me know what you find at this point and we can go from there (if necessary).

PS: You don't need to get in to the relay box.....!

I suspect the clicking you heard (when pressing the starter switch) was coming from the starter relay A located to the right of the battery. Sometimes sounds can appear in one location and be in another. This indicates to me your starter switch is probably working good........!!

I moved the reverse lever up and down and it didn't work. I have also sat on the bike and put it in gear and pulled the clutch in and it still won't turn over.. I noticed last night when pushing the starter switch there was a clicking sound coming from the box that sits next to the main fuse box on the left hand side right in front of the saddle bag, but I couldn't figure out how to get the cover off..

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The kill switch is in the ignition circuit. I believe his issue is in the starting circuit.

If the cruise "ON" light in the instrument cluster illuminates when the cruise switch is turned on, the Kill switch is good.

The neutral light is not part of the starting circuit. However, if the neutral light bulb is good (and associated connections are good) and the light is not illuminated, that can indicate there is no power to the reverse relay switch (which is part of the starting circuit).

If the neutral light bulb was burned out but all else was good, the starting system would work.

First, welcome to the forum. :waving:

DBohrer is probably right on the money. He often is.
But just for grins, have you checked the kill switch? Maybe the light and starting are 2 different issues.
 

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It does disable the starting after around 1994 but the basis function for the kill switch is to provide voltage to the ECM and three ignition coils.

I will still maintain its in the ignition circuit.:grin3:

I thought that the kill switch on the later 1500's also killed the start circuit.:?
 

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The problem is the Reverse.. The first time I moved it up and down the neutral light never came on. .I messed around with it some more this last weekend and moved the reverse handle up and down quite of few times and the neutral light did come on.. When I shut the bike down and use reverse I have to jiggle the reverse handle a few times to get the neutral light to come back on, so I am guessing there is a short some where..


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The problem is the Reverse.. The first time I moved it up and down the neutral light never came on. .I messed around with it some more this last weekend and moved the reverse handle up and down quite of few times and the neutral light did come on.. When I shut the bike down and use reverse I have to jiggle the reverse handle a few times to get the neutral light to come back on, so I am guessing there is a short some where..


Mike
No, it is not a short, the reverse lever switch is sticking. Take off the lever and the cover behind it, you can see the switch to the upper right. Spray it with WD40 or contact cleaner, put the lever back on and work it up & down and spray it some more until it works every time.
 

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No, it is not a short, the reverse lever switch is sticking. Take off the lever and the cover behind it, you can see the switch to the upper right. Spray it with WD40 or contact cleaner, put the lever back on and work it up & down and spray it some more until it works every time.
Or replace the reverse switch - it's fairly cheap. Or better yet, do as Dave suggests, to confirm that it is the switch (and get the bike running again), then order the switch and hold onto it and next time it starts to fail replace the switch and throw away the old one.
 

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I did narrow the starting problem to the reverse switch, I took the handle off and sprayed WD40 and freed up the switch and now it all works fine.. The problem now is to get the reverse handle back on.. I couldn't see how the spring was on the bolt and when I pulled the bolt out the spring popped and I wasn't able to see how it set in there.. I have made several attempts to get it all back together and it isn't easy.. There is also a rod that has to go into a hole at the same time as the bolt with spring on it has to go in.. Does any one have any tricks in getting this all back together?? and also how is the spring suppose to go in??

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I recently had my reverse lever off and don't remember any springs coming loose when I had it off. There is a little pin that has to go into a hole but it is easy to line up. I just put the pin back in the hole as I was putting the lever back on then put the bolt back in the center of the lever. I think it took a 6 mm hex wrench to tighten it up.
Could you post a picture of what you are having trouble with?
 

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I noticed last night when pushing the starter switch there was a clicking sound coming from the box that sits next to the main fuse box on the left hand side right in front of the saddle bag, but I couldn't figure out how to get the cover off..
The clicking heard is the headlight relay turning the headlight off and is normal with start button pushed, only now you can hear it because the starter is not turning due to another problem.
 
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