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Napa carries the fuel filters part 3011 about 3 bucks

 

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Thanks, Budd. That's exactly what I needed. It's the same number for the GL1100's, I guess, but I wasn't sure. Thanks again.

 

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Your welcome if you want to see more go to goldwingdocs.com and look at tech talk they have a good cross over parts list for a lot of parts. Hal

 

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Yep-- I have the Napa on my 1200 after all the problems Enco was having. Fit in the stock holder just fine and were about $3 each.

Jim

 

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Here's a picture of what was in the old filter on the bike. It was original equipment, and I doubt that it had ever been changed. Took a 4400 mile trip last year with that filter; guess we were lucky.

I couldn't find the NAPA filter locally, so I installed a Hastings GF 95 thatis the equivalent of the NAPA #3011.Bike started right up, which it had not been doing. I'll bet it's going to have more power too.

I plan to check out the tank because that stuff is rust colored. And depending on how it runs, maybe pull and clean the carbs.

Thank you both for your help.

 

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Wow!!!! That is amazing.!!! Hard to believe any fuel was getting thru that. Would be interesting to see whats in the carb. bowls. I think i would remove the fuel pump and see if you can flush out any sediment that may be in it.

Jim :waving:

 

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I bet if that filter was on a Harley it would have stopped dead in its tracks. Just goes to show you how great these bikes are. Hal

 

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rideandslidejim wrote:

Would be interesting to see whats in the carb. bowls. I think i would remove the fuel pump and see if you can flush out any sediment that may be in it.

Two good suggestions. Thanks, Jim. I'll do that. I'm so anxious to see what a difference the new filter makes that I'm going to take it for a short, hopefully spirited ride first, though.

 

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BUDDTWO wrote:

I bet if that filter was on a Harley it would have stopped dead in its tracks. Just goes to show you how great these bikes are. Hal

I totally agree. On our long trip last year, not only was the filternearly clogged up, the regulator was failing too, but she kept on moving and got us there. Fantastic bikes.

 

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I, too, have an '86 Aspy. I am going to change the filter to the Napa one, but I have a question. The fuel lines are just "stuck on" the present filter right now with NO clamps on the hoses whatsoever. Is the way it should be, or do I need to put clamps on each end?

 

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Goldwings are fantastic bikes, but so are Harleys, IMO. Older carbed Harleys only needed a simple clear inline fuel filter like any other bike. You could always carry extras, only takes a few minutes to change. Now the newer Fuel injected Harleys have the same issues as the newer fuel injected Goldwings. A huge, and very expensive filter designed to withstand the super high pressures of a fuel injection pump. Also, ALL Goldwings have fuel pumps, while pre injected Harleys don't. And Harleys have only one easy to remove and clean carb instead of four. Not everything about Harleys is bad.

 

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JerryH wrote:

Not everything about Harleys is bad.

Agree. I rent them 2-3 times a year for different events or when visiting my Dad in NJ. Something about a 103 Ultra Classic at speed that does a soul some good! Always happy to climb back on my Interstate though!

 

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Do the 1200 carbs have a screen in the carb like the GL1000
It is under the needle and seat. if it does I wonder if that crud made it to that point?

 

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maestro319 wrote:

do I need to put clamps on each end?

Yes. Get small hose clamps. I replaced the two fuel lines on either side of the filter while I was at it. Used 1/4" fuel line, $1 for both of them, cut to fit.

 

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scotterichmond wrote:

Do the 1200 carbs have a screen in the carb like the GL1000
It is under the needle and seat. if it does I wonder if that crud made it to that point?

I don't know. One of the gurus may come along and answer that. My thoughts are that as any filter fills up, it becomes more efficient in the particle size it removes;the material it collects becomes part of the filter media, thusreducing the size of the particle that can pass. Of course, the open area of the filter is reduced too, sooutput is reduced, sometimes creating havoc with downstream processes.

 

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JERRYH &SMC hey guys just kidding around about the HD lot of my buddies ride HD and yes even my brother Hal

 

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PAPete wrote:

scotterichmond wrote:

Do the 1200 carbs have a screen in the carb like the GL1000
It is under the needle and seat. if it does I wonder if that crud made it to that point?

I don't know. One of the gurus may come along and answer that. My thoughts are that as any filter fills up, it becomes more efficient in the particle size it removes;the material it collects becomes part of the filter media, thusreducing the size of the particle that can pass. Of course, the open area of the filter is reduced too, sooutput is reduced, sometimes creating havoc with downstream processes.

Yes they do. And it is under the needle/seat.

 

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Just to update:

I took the bike, a 1200 Aspy,for a 50 mile ride yesterday, and there was a noticeable difference with the new filter. Surprisingly, I noticed the most improvement at low speed; it seemed to have more torque at lower speeds, than I remember. If this makes sense to someone else, I'd appreciate an explanation.

Another thing puzzles me: On a slight upward grade, as I went to pass a couple of bikes that were traveling at 60 MPH, the bike did not respond with as much power as I expected. I thought that ingoing from an almost completely plugged filter to a new one, you would see a bigger difference at higher RPM than at slow speeds. RPM was probably just under 3000 at 60 mph. I was in OD and did not downshift. Where is the "powerband" on this bike?

It ran fairly smoothly through all gears, although I could hear the soft putt-putt-putt of thesticky air cutoff valve(s) as I coasted to a stop. I expected this, as the bike has been sitting (with Stabil) since early June. I put MMO and gas in the tank -- we'll see if that helps the a/c/o valves. If that doesn't do it, I'll try some Berryman's B-12 and/or Seafoam.

 

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PAPete wrote:

It ran fairly smoothly through all gears, although I could hear the soft putt-putt-putt of thesticky air cutoff valve(s) as I coasted to a stop. I expected this, as the bike has been sitting (with Stabil) since early June. I put MMO and gas in the tank -- we'll see if that helps the a/c/o valves. If that doesn't do it, I'll try some Berryman's B-12 and/or Seafoam.

No fuel goes through the air valves so fuel treatments will not help.

 

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DaveO430 wrote:

No fuel goes through the air valves so fuel treatments will not help.

Thanks, Dave,but that'sa bummer. Do I have to pull the carbs, or is there a simpler solution?

 

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Pete After seeing that fuel filter i would have to pull the carbs/rack just to see what's inside and give everything (jets,bowls,float valves and needles ) a good cleaning. It's not as bad as it looks to do it if are a mechanical person.

Jim

 

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Here's a pic of basicly the inside.

 

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rideandslidejim wrote:

Pete After seeing that fuel filter i would have to pull the carbs/rack just to see what's inside and give everything (jets,bowls,float valves and needles ) a good cleaning. It's not as bad as it looks to do it if are a mechanical person.

Jim

Thanks, Jim.

Guess I'll have to bite the bullet....

I've not been very mechanically inclined, but this board has helped like crazy. I hope you (all) will be able to help me get things un-screwed up when I get into it.

Anyway thanks for your comments and picture.

 

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No problem Pete, will be all the help i can ( and i'm sure the forum ), but all my work has been on my 1200, which i presumed you were working on. Now see it may be a 1100 ? On which the carbs are a different beast. Either way there i'm sure there is a guru around to help !

Jim

 

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Thanks for the offer of support. It is the 1200. Got grandkid duty off and on this week, so unsure when I can get started. You'll hear from me, I know. Thanks again.
Pete