[mrjay62]

I Would PM AZ18000

but he's always yelling at me to get off his back and buy a manual! lol

 

[lionelgo50]

Valvoline vv986 is moly 60 - Timken load rated 60 lbs

 

[rgmr250]

From CycleMax's website: http://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/honda_moly_assembly_paste/158744/254321

I read somewhere that the M77 is the replacement for Moly 60. I asked my local motorcycle mechanic about using Moly paste vs good quality high-temp bearing grease. It was his opinion that the good quality high-temp bearing grease would work just as well. I'm curious about opinions here, though. I'm going to be doing my steering head bearings and would like to know the opinions here on Moly paste vs bearing grease. I'll be replacing the wheel bearings as well, and I'll lube the final drive splines at the same time, so same question applies there.

 

[mrjay62]

http://www.hondapartsnow.com/genuine/honda~paste~08734-0001.html
http://www.hondapartsnow.com/genuine/honda~moly~paste~08798-9010.html

found this?? On a honda parts site two different #s.

 

[CrystalPistol]

Valvoline part # VV632 is what I use on my Fords and trailer's wheel bearings and other bearings as well as my bike and trike's splines in driveshafts and bike's final drive to wheel drive splines.

 

[AZgl1800]

I read somewhere that the M77 is the replacement for Moly 60. I asked my local motorcycle mechanic about using Moly paste vs good quality high-temp bearing grease. It was his opinion that the good quality high-temp bearing grease would work just as well.

M-77

If you listen to that ill informed jackolantern, you will ruin your spline drives.

It must state Moly 60 or better, do NOT under any circumstances buy anything that does NOT have the Word MOLY 60 or 80 in the label.

• Moly 60 and substitutes

Cyclemax - Honda Moly 60 Paste $9.00



Moly 60 paste makes it right, here is why you use it


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molybdenum_disulfide


Lots of sources, Sears Sawbucks has it, any auto parts store has it, all Marine shops have it,

https://www.bing.com/images/search?...ges/search?q=moly+paste&id=77BDE7ECBACC93292C98D60AAB226773713625F8&FORM=IQFRBA

 

[cihilb]

There is a specific grease used for the calipers. These things get HOT and most conventional grease will melt and spread. One thing you don't need is grease on the rotors.

 

[Bike...and Dennis]

At some point after 1987 Honda started specifying Moly 60 instead of Moly 45. Now they've changed it again?

Realistically any quality grease should protect just fine. Lack of grease, or grease crystallized from sitting too long is the enemy. I've got 280K on my splines, using Valvoline Heavy Duty Moly Grease and Lubri-Matic White Lithium Grease until I got involved in this forum. Splines are fine, but the bike has been regularly ridden and maintained.

 

[lionelgo50]

from moly 77 specifications




MICROLUBROL M-77 LUBRICANT PASTE GREASE Silicone + Moly





Product Description



A multipurpose, extreme pressure lubricating paste that can be used over a wide temperature range. It contains over 60 percent molybdenum disulfide lubricating solids in a Lithium soap thickened ultra-high performance silicone fluid.

Suitable for lubrication points with low to moderate loads and low speeds which are subjected to water and extreme loads and temperatures. At temperatures above 230ºC (446ºF), the carrier volatilizes leaving virtually no residue and the remaining dry sliding film itself takes over the lubrication up to 400ºC (750ºF).

 

[Aloha Tom]

to answer the question on steering bearings = Use plain ol wheel bearing grease, same for wheel bearings- high performance types if you prefer. Marine/waterproof never hurt!


For the spline shafts: MOLY 60, or 77 which would be newer spec
Anything you want to easily remove some years down the road, like things held in place by spline shafts = Use MOLY60/77
It stays on the part,, wont get flung off or melted out...parts will slide apart when you need them to!


You can use moly60 on many things BUT at its $10+ price for small tube!!, and how much you use greasing new steering bearings,,,
the $5 tub-o-grease is good for regular bearing locations.

 

[Roadyrider]

Reason my wheel flange wore out on my '86 was no grease. The PO used no grease at all. I bought a tube of molly 60, ten bucks at the local stealer.

 

[OnaWingAndaPrayer]

Honda M-77 Assembly Paste part# 08798-9010 tube size 2.65oz /1.75g
contains Molybdenum disulfide (1317-33-5j ), Dimethyl, Phenylmethyl-polysiloxane,Trimethyl terminated (63148-52-7 ), 12-Hydroxy-lithium stearate (7620-77-1 )
No mention of the Moly content/ % . I just bought a tube . Its near 20$ at my local stealer and they kept it out back not in the display racks with oils ans coolants ect. My understanding is it is an assembly lube for gears,cams and such internal bits needing good lubricant till the oil flow begins.
Could it work on the splines ? I dunno . I'll keep using Honda PRo Moly 60 for that till its not available.

 

[AZgl1800]

Mike, back up a few posts, M-77 is Moly 60

 

[mrjay62]

Well guys
From the Dealer here in The Rochester NY area and The one in the Bronx they Both said the samething..
There doing away with Honda moly 60 Patse and Now using the M-77 Assembly Paste..
I also found a few honda OEM Parts sites where I punch In Moly 60 and it shows me a tube of M-77.

I have it, it's gray and smelly im going to try it....

So Confused! ,

 

[Charlie in nc]

A word of CAUTION, It is not a good idea to MIX grease products!! Charlie

 

[Aloha Tom]

that's why we dismantle the bike and install new bearings in a clean work environment, or we clean the bageezus out of any fitting
-such as the plastic speedo drive gear at the wheel hub, Getting 20 year old grease out of the threads and corners of housing, ugh!
reminder, or those new to the thread, MOLY 60 or newer Moly 77 spec is for use on rear wheel splines and driveshaft splines so they slip apart next time!


Wheel bearings use good quality- marine-waterproof synthetic wheel bearing grease. $5 a tub with enough to do 2 bikes and a car
Steering Stem bearings: Use that same grease as wheel bearings
Steering bearings are another common wear-out part, that contributes to our infamous low and high speed tank slapping death wobble


Save your small tube of Moly 60 / 77 for the rear wheel splines and driveshaft, where it will be a lifesaver next time you work on that part of the bike!