[CaptainMidnight85]

A chainsaw file works great. Very precise. Very little gets removed very accurately.

You've the carb and plenum and are soon to mate the two.
Assembled, look at it and the now-unused factory bellcrank.
I am still using my prototyped mount as seen in my avatar after a year and a half without problem.
It is made of common hardware-store brackets and riveted together.
Nuts, bolts, washers, a nylon spacer or two, coat hanger material and a electrical crimp ring terminal.
Some soldering, cutting of brackets and riveting to get it as pictured.

It works amd gives options on how you would like your throttle to control the carburetor action.
Overpull
Underpull
Stock
...whatever feels best for throttle twist to you when done.
Tailors the carb asction to you and your bike.
Simple to do.

I plan a disassembly and photo session of what I did in the avatar later when time permits.
It has been a excellent addition to my conversion that simply reroutes the factory cabling set-up. Enough cable after repositioning the bellcrank to allow for taller bars if one wanted to do it.

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[CRAFTMAN600]

YEA rite there.. I was looking at the extended video of the bike with close up throttle actions. Ive seen in a couple close up frames. I would think that this is the ideal way to go . Being the characteristics would stay in feel of twist. Also ordered the linkage kit that is shown in the avatar pic. 7.00 or something like that..

Crank case ventilation tube. Filter it..? Or tie it into the bottom of Air box plate.

 

[CaptainMidnight85]

I feed it back to the airbox.
I've fed it back to all of my air filters; single or two-barrel.

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[CaptainMidnight85]

Been chatting with someone about air intake heat.
What I have done after boxing the radiator in is to pull air from the top of the shroud/box and pipe it over to the carburetors airbox.

Pictured is what I aspire to reproduce for the top of the shrouded radiator. It is what we've been talking of. The one pictured was made for providing cabin heat for a plane.

My finished version will resemble it very closely.

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[CRAFTMAN600]

Been chatting with someone about air intake heat.
What I have done after boxing the radiator in is to pull air from the top of the shroud/box and pipe it over to the carburetors airbox.

Pictured is what I aspire to reproduce for the top of the shrouded radiator. It is what we've been talking of. The one pictured was made for providing cabin heat for a plane.

My finished version will resemble it very closely.

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Boxing the radiator.? hmm.

 

[CaptainMidnight85]

Intake heat is very controllable.
Why not take advantage of it?
If anyone converting rides in the cold then it is worth thinking of.
Am I not getting the bike up to a GL1500 par baseline comparison at this point?

I've a additional technique of ridden the radiators waste heat from the shrouded enclosure aside from the carbs intake.

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[pdbro]

These heated plates. Did you ever get a link to them or see what they look like?

you mean this?
http://www.classicgoldwings.com/forum/gallery/image_page.php?image_id=21651

 

[CRAFTMAN600]

you mean this?
http://www.classicgoldwings.com/forum/gallery/image_page.php?image_id=21651

I guess that's it. I happen to hear about it. I don't think there is enuf amperage to run that on the gl1000.

 

[CaptainMidnight85]

Pictured is my drawing that I gave to my fabricator. My rough drawing and my submitted drawing.
It is designed for the DFT32 but may work with other Weber carbs on this plenum.
It mounts the factory GL bellcrank and throttle cable bracket.
These can be made by hand...

Included on the rough drawing is part of my bracket for converting the choke to manual operation via the factory choke cable.

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[CRAFTMAN600]

Finally finished my carburetor to plenum. This was a SLOW process doing it. I also took my time making sure it stayed aligned. Glad it's done. Now the wife can have the kitchen table back.:claps:

 

[CaptainMidnight85]

Slow, but worth the time.
Imaging opening those outlets up with a Dremel. ...

Looks Good!

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[pdbro]

hey cm85, are you saying there is no merit to using a 2 into one adapter with these conversions?

 

[CaptainMidnight85]

Why ask me?

But, since you did;
No, not for the reasoning put forth by Dan in his initial presentation of it. Increasing plenum volume at the cost of "centering" fuel distribution into the plenum is a failure from the word "GO".

Seems another has found a trade-off in the cost though.
Do you agree?

For some, retention of the electric choke may be a cost worth paying the off-idle throttle response Gods for.
Using the adapter for anything else is nothing I would advise.

Good progress by that newcomer on his forum. Whoever he is. Benefits can come in the most mysterious of ways when a little creativity is actually put forward.

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[pdbro]

not sure what your point is exactly here
http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/2875065-post677.html

either way, do you have a position on the use of a 2 to 1 adapter with these 2 barrel conversions?

 

[CRAFTMAN600]

Slow, but worth the time.
Imaging opening those outlets up with a Dremel. ...

Looks Good!

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I sure did. But I got it done and no one got hurt. On to the next step. Had a lokk at the drawing. Like to see that finished..

 

[CaptainMidnight85]

Like to see that finished..

I think I have some left. I'll have to look for them.

I've been spending what time I can on my new filter housing and radiator shrouding.

 

[pdbro]

Why ask me?

But, since you did;
No, not for the reasoning put forth by Dan in his initial presentation of it. Increasing plenum volume at the cost of "centering" fuel distribution into the plenum is a failure from the word "GO".

Seems another has found a trade-off in the cost though.
Do you agree?

part of what i understood from dan was 2 plugs, or one end was running richer, centering the charge seemed to have some effect on that, according to reports,

i wondered about tha cos i don't recall westgl having that issue, actually i don't recall wgl having any issues not using the 2 to 1 adapter

but then hott as well as joedrum seemed to agree to some clear benefits using the adapter, though i think some of it had to do with when/if using larger carbs

not clear on this part?

Seems another has found a trade-off in the cost though.

 

[CaptainMidnight85]

part of what i understood from ban was 2 plugs, or one end was running richer, centering the charge seemed to have some effect on that, according to reports,

Adding plenum volume attempts to compensate for unequal runner tract lengths by slowing the charge down. Raising the carburetors throttle blade from the plenum floor, in conjunction with a now slower charge from the added volume, allows more time for the atomized fuel to make the turn to the runner after exiting the venturi and through the throttle blade.

It is my view that he sees results with his conversion, yes. But he does not know why he is seeing them and must formulate some reasoning before conveying it.

i wondered about tha cos i don't recall westgl having that issue, actually i don't recall wgl having any issues not using the 2 to 1 adapter

...nor do I have the issue.
Quality construction practices are important.

I equalize distribution by port tuning my individual fuel tracts.
Equalized distribution via increased plenum volume and "centering" the input charge into a intake manifolds plenum chamber is smoke and mirrors as the actual problem still exists. He will find this out once he actually gets time on the bike in.

but then hott as well as joedrum seemed to agree to some clear benefits using the adapter, though i think some of it had to do with when/if using larger carbs

I suppose they will speak on it for themselves. I don't see them contributing to this thread.
Hott's manifold needed something to mount a two-barrel carburetor to what is normally considerd a single-barrel manifold. I suppose he found it in the adaptor.
Joe doesn't have a stock engine and admits to knowing very little of one as it relates to this particular conversion. Whatever he is doing to his bike pertains to Joes interpretation of his results just as Dans pertains to his. Others may see my view differently.

not clear on this part?

Oh, just a new thread boasting of Tom's carburetor over there. It's good to see people having a easier time in getting a conversion completed in short order, even of ot takes two Forums to make it happen.

I'm happy that others are finally seeing the benefits in heating their conversion manifold.
We've a decent NEW carburetor for a conversion now and most are seeimg the benefits of heating their manifolds as a regular process of converting.

Many have contributed.


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[pdbro]

i meant i'm not clear on the "trade-off in the cost" here?
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not clear on this part?

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Seems another has found a trade-off in the cost though.

 

[CaptainMidnight85]

i meant i'm not clear on the "trade-off in the cost" here?
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not clear on this part?

Increasing plenum volume decreases off-idle throttle response with this conversion.
Throttle response is fine midrange and upward if some volume is added but the off-idle response will degrade with every cc of volume added.
His smaller diameter runners do not compensate for added plenum volume.

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